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CWP required to carry openly while hunting.

VantuckyKain

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Hey guys just found this site and thought I would bring my issue to your attention.

Explanation of complaint:
My Complaint is with the Washington Department of Fish & Wildlife. They recently made a change in the hunting regulations. They are now requiring a concealed pistol license (CPL) to carry a pistol for personal protection while hunting during an archery or muzzleloader season. Their reasoning is that somehow CPL holders are more law abiding citizens and somehow less likely to use their modern firearm to take game during archery and muzzleloader season. My complaint is that this requirement is in violation of my rights as stated in the Washington State constitution:

SECTION 24 "RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS. The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself, or the state, shall not be impaired, but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain or employ an armed body of men."

A citizen is not required to have a CPL to carry openly and according to RCW 9.41.060 a citizen is not required to have a CPL while engaging in a legal outdoor activity and carrying concealed. My complaint is that the WDFW has created this rule not only in contradiction to the US and State constitutions and state law but has unfairly targeted archery and muzzleload hunters rights while not making the same requirement of modern firearm hunters and fisherman and other outdoor users. Not only that it would not allow hunters under the age of 21 to carry a handgun for protection while archery or muzzleloader hunting. This make absolutely no sense because they are allowed to carry firearms at all other times. I would like this rule removed that was added last minute to the regulations. I am a legal citizen of Washington and the United States and have no criminal history.

http://wdfw.wa.gov/wlm/game/hunter/huntregs2009.pdf
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9.41.060
 

skidmark

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Welcome to OCDO.

I think you would be better off taking your issue over to the Washington State section.

stay safe.

skidmark
 

mobeewan

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It is the same here in Virginia. Although there is now fullpreemption, Virginia law does allow the game department to regulate the use of weapons while hunting. This includes the carrying of firearms not allowed to be used during specific seasons. Only recently has the regulations been changed to allow CHP (concealed handgun permit) holders to posses a handgun while hunting when handguns are not allowed during a specific hunting season. Washington may have similar laws allowing the game department to regulate types of weapons during any season. In Virginia we can carry rifles openly in public. However we cannot carry a rifle during bow season or muzzle laoading season. Should I complain that the hunting laws do not allow me to carry a rifle during those seasons too?
 
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