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camsoup wrote:
To me, stopping open carry in CA until June 2010 at the earliest possible time would be a massive step back. All that training could be forgotten, the memos and bulletins forgotten if not rescinded (due to no more "threat" of lawsuits from people who are no longer putting themselves in a position to be violated in the first place). Veterans will retire, lateral transfers to other departments in the state will occur. LE awareness of OC will not be anywhere close to the level it is now if we hide for the better part of a year, and probably much longer because SCOTUS will not be ruling on loaded open carry unrestricted by permits, school zones, or other fake sensitive zones created by the government.
The claim has often been made that LEOs deal with so many people they can hardly be expected to know who leaders of the OC movement are even if they've been stopped and illegally IDed multiple times. Well if they don't stop anyone at all, then it's reasonable to expect they would not have OCers fresh in their mind past June 2010 (again, at the earliest possible time).
camsoup wrote:
cato wrote:Hows the saying go? " A right unexercised is a right lost"?Sons of Liberty wrote:I honestly do not know where these guys are coming from?!
They've financially and legally backed several UOCers which resulted in NO charges being filed in those cases.
That's right we haven't lost it for good...only until June 2010 :shock:
Look how far the OC movement has come in this state, how did we get there?? People willing to exercise their right to OC on the streets, officers receiving new training, new memos, new bulletins issued, officers interacting with OC'ers in the real world.
To me, stopping open carry in CA until June 2010 at the earliest possible time would be a massive step back. All that training could be forgotten, the memos and bulletins forgotten if not rescinded (due to no more "threat" of lawsuits from people who are no longer putting themselves in a position to be violated in the first place). Veterans will retire, lateral transfers to other departments in the state will occur. LE awareness of OC will not be anywhere close to the level it is now if we hide for the better part of a year, and probably much longer because SCOTUS will not be ruling on loaded open carry unrestricted by permits, school zones, or other fake sensitive zones created by the government.
The claim has often been made that LEOs deal with so many people they can hardly be expected to know who leaders of the OC movement are even if they've been stopped and illegally IDed multiple times. Well if they don't stop anyone at all, then it's reasonable to expect they would not have OCers fresh in their mind past June 2010 (again, at the earliest possible time).