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Thread: New York City Police Department harrasing owner of legal antique revolitionary era rifle.

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    Let's hope they see reason and decline to prefer formal charges.

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    Good for him.

    I admit being surprised when I saw that he is a social worker.


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    nyc_paramedic wrote:
    I'm trying to find out how I can contact his counsel and see if they will accept donations for his defense.
    http://www.joycebdavid.com/


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    The NYPD learned about Littlejohn's $825 rifle when he left a receipt inside a Staples copy center, prompting a call to the cops.
    Wait a minute, somebody saw a piece of paper and called the cops? Wow, New York is worse than I thought.

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    I am now paralyzed on my left side because of the stroke reading this story caused me.

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    Who ever the "higher ups" are, they are totally insane.

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    longwatch wrote:
    I am now paralyzed on my left side because of the stroke reading this story caused me.
    I can feel my brain trying to have three aneurysms for the same reason

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    Tomahawk wrote:
    The NYPD learned about Littlejohn's $825 rifle when he left a receipt inside a Staples copy center, prompting a call to the cops.
    Wait a minute, somebody saw a piece of paper and called the cops? Wow, New York is worse than I thought.
    Some poor moron saw a piece of paper with the word "gun" on it, and probably thought they were saving NYC from the "next 9/11".

    I'll leave it to you what the operative word in that sentence is...

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    Never, ever underestimate the pathology of the leadership of New York City.

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    Tomahawk wrote:
    The NYPD learned about Littlejohn's $825 rifle when he left a receipt inside a Staples copy center, prompting a call to the cops.
    Wait a minute, somebody saw a piece of paper and called the cops? Wow, New York is worse than I thought.
    How about this....now they will have "ammo" against vintage guns...

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_c...in_queens.html

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    what idiocy....

    never underestimate the level of stupidity a politician suffers from...

    and it sounds like the Fascist Bloomberg suffers from a great deal of it.

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    milkmanjoe wrote:
    Tomahawk wrote:
    The NYPD learned about Littlejohn's $825 rifle when he left a receipt inside a Staples copy center, prompting a call to the cops.
    Wait a minute, somebody saw a piece of paper and called the cops? Wow, New York is worse than I thought.
    How about this....now they will have "ammo" against vintage guns...

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_c...in_queens.html
    And from the article:

    "They grabbed him, they tussled with him. They took the weapon out of his waistband. It fell to the ground, and a round went off, striking Officer Lewis."
    So the cops wrestled the gun away from the man, dropped it on the ground and it went off and hit someone. Nice work.

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    New York's Finest at work...........

    Finding a vintage replica, by mistake, then trying to prove it illegal........then wrestling an old pistol away and getting shot with it when it falls.........I am, for the first time in years, speechless

    I have to believe Police are good, don't cut me up for it, but I hope I never have need for these particular individuals

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    Well, the OP deleted all his posts so I have to go by the gist of all the other posts. SO. Once I heard about a little boy who got into some big trouble in Kindergarten. It started when the Teacher asked the kiddies to write a story about how they were going to spend "Spring Break" (formerly Easter vacation).

    Well, one little boy got kinda confused and raised his hand. The teacher said "Yes, James?" and the boy asked, "How do you spell 'gun'?"

    Just a bit perplexed, the teacher replied: "G-U-N, James."

    A few seconds later, the boy raised his hand again. "How do you spell 'DIE'?"

    The teacher blanched. She was visibly shaken, but tried not to show it as she fished for her cell phone while she told the boy: "D-I-E, James".

    While James was doing his writing the teacher was busy whispering the situation to the 911 operator. Before too long a SWAT team kicked in the door and ordered everybody to put their hands where they could be seen. Then the Sergeant asked the teacher where the boy was, and she pointed to James. The Sergeant walked slowly to the boy and said: "Why did you ask your teacher how to spell "gun" and "die"?"

    James responded: ""Cause we're Gun Die Easter Eggs!!"

    WE ARE SURROUNDED BY IDIOTS.

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    Alexcabbie wrote:
    Well, the OP deleted all his posts so I have to go by the gist of all the other posts. SO. Once I heard about a little boy who got into some big trouble in Kindergarten. It started when the Teacher asked the kiddies to write a story about how they were going to spend "Spring Break" (formerly Easter vacation).

    Well, one little boy got kinda confused and raised his hand. The teacher said "Yes, James?" and the boy asked, "How do you spell 'gun'?"

    Just a bit perplexed, the teacher replied: "G-U-N, James."

    A few seconds later, the boy raised his hand again. "How do you spell 'DIE'?"

    The teacher blanched. She was visibly shaken, but tried not to show it as she fished for her cell phone while she told the boy: "D-I-E, James".

    While James was doing his writing the teacher was busy whispering the situation to the 911 operator. Before too long a SWAT team kicked in the door and ordered everybody to put their hands where they could be seen. Then the Sergeant asked the teacher where the boy was, and she pointed to James. The Sergeant walked slowly to the boy and said: "Why did you ask your teacher how to spell "gun" and "die"?"

    James responded: ""Cause we're Gun Die Easter Eggs!!"

    WE ARE SURROUNDED BY IDIOTS.
    Aye...Thank You...

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    Here is a link to the original article: http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/...with_cops.html
    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

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    Thank you for putting the link up.

    There is no way he should ever have to register teh weapon. Darn liberals.

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    New Yorker fights attempts by city to license his Revolutionary War-style flintlock

    The New York Daily News is reporting that, like America's first soldiers at the Battle of Brooklyn, NYC resident Michael Littlejohn is fighting for his right to bear arms.

    And his fight proves beyond any doubt that, despite their claims, gun banners want ALL guns.

    From the story:

    The Revolutionary War buff charges the Bloomberg administration with tyranny for trying to seize his handmade flintlock rifle - a dead ringer for the weapon once used against the redcoats.

    "This is the last legal gun that you can have without registration in New York," Littlejohn said. "And yet Mayor Bloomberg is driven crazy by my flintlock gun - the one that won the American Revolution."


    Littlejohn fired the first shot when he hired a Tennessee blacksmith to recreate the vintage rifle. It arrived at his Sheepshead Bay, Brooklyn, apartment in June - followed quickly by city cops.

    Police claim it's illegal for Littlejohn to keep the flintlock without a gun license.

    The story goes on say that Littlejohn, 50, cites the earliest American patriots as his inspiration while refusing to surrender his firearm or apply for a license.

    The social worker is also clinging to a little-known exemption in the city's strict gun laws.

    The loophole allows license-free ownership of "antique firearms" - defined as rifles that require the bullet and gunpowder to be loaded separately.

    Littlejohn's rifle appears to fit the bill.

    Loading the weapon, he explains, is a multistep process that takes several pokes with a ramrod and up to a minute to complete.

    To fire, the rifle relies on a sharpened piece of flint that produces a spark when the trigger is pulled. That point is moot, Littlejohn says: He doesn't own gunpowder or bullets.

    That's not enough to make the NYPD retreat.

    The cops visited Littlejohn's apartment and sat down this month with the Tennessee blacksmith who forged the rifle.

    The lead detective on the case told Littlejohn's lawyer that he had orders "from higher-ups" to pursue the case, according to an e-mail the lawyer sent to Littlejohn.

    A police source told the newspaper the war could end peacefully if Littlejohn applied for a permit with the NYPD handgun license division.

    But Littlejohn says he would rather fight. The Brooklynite says he's willing to sue for his rifle rights.

    When it comes to gun control, too often there are gun owners willing to look the other way, or even support it, out of the belief that their own brand of firearm is safe from the gun grabbers. But finally the truth is exposed:

    If it fires a shot they want it!

    Mayor Bloomberg is going after a reenactors' flintlock (200 + year old technology) with the same venom he goes after any other gun.

    Combine that with NYC going after toy guns, another city banning cap guns and air guns, and Ireland following the disastrous lead of Great Britain and banning handguns, and it should be obvious to any and every gun owner:

    If it looks like a gun of any type the gun banners and anti-gun politicians want it.

    They do not care what kind of gun. They do not care that the United States of America would not exist as we know it today without this gun in its history. They hate the gun - they hate us for liking the gun - and they want the guns gone.

    The truth is, they are only settling for the guns being gone. What they really want is anyone who thinks like us gone also. They just haven't quite admitted that yet.



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    zack991 wrote:
    "This is the last legal gun that you can have without registration in New York," Littlejohn said. "And yet Mayor Bloomberg is driven crazy by my flintlock gun - the one that won the American Revolution."

    Mayor Bloomberg is going after a reenactors' flintlock (200 + year old technology) with the same venom he goes after any other gun.

    If it looks like a gun of any type the gun banners and anti-gun politicians want it.

    They do not care what kind of gun. They do not care that the United States of America would not exist as we know it today without this gun in its history. They hate the gun - they hate us for liking the gun - and they want the guns gone.

    The truth is, they are only settling for the guns being gone. What they really want is anyone who thinks like us gone also. They just haven't quite admitted that yet.



    Wasn't the first American flag a drawing of a Rattle Snake ?

    " Keep your porno hands off my gun and my snake "



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    Slightly related...

    My son was sent home with a note from school saying toy guns of any type are against the rules, and next time he will be sent home.

    Here's the gun:



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    I suspect the Long Islander is being targeted less because of his rifle than because he dares to oppose Mayor Bloomie and the sacred police.

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    .40 Cal wrote:
    Slightly related...

    My son was sent home with a note from school saying toy guns of any type are against the rules, and next time he will be sent home.

    Here's the gun:

    That is not a gun, it is a precision scientific instrument. That is a pnuematic compression demonstrator. It is used to show what happens when a gas, trapped in a enclosed space is compressed, the plug is a calibrated safety device that when the gas trapped in the device is compressed to the calibrated value on the safety plug, it is ejected from the end of cylinder, emitting a loud popping sound to warn the operator that theplugs calibratedlimits had been reached. Thesafety plugis retained by a high strength lanyard to allow easy reinstallation of the calibrated safety plug. The hand grip is ergonomically designed to allow easy holding and opeartion of the pnuematic compression demonstrator and to reduce chances of carpel tunnel injuries, that might be caused by repeated demonstrations of the device.



    See, it is not a gun.

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