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As a quick aside, I lived in Germany for a number of years under socialized medicine. If they proposed a system like theirs, I would jump at it. Even with a senior citizen population of 17% (America is around 7%, I think) there was no waiting, I could see any doctor I wanted to visit, and everyone paid the same percentage... everyone. I even had the doctor COME TO MY HOUSE as I was so sick that I could not move out of bed.
Now, back to the issue. I agree w/ malignity to a certain degree: there is an assumption made that all 2nd Amendment supporters are "right wing", "conservative", etc.
Those are assumptions which are dangerous. People who claim to be "conservative" have supported very restrictive gun laws (see R. Reagan as Gov. of California and their laws) and I've also seen very "liberal" people advocate for 2nd Amendment rights (see Blue Dog Democrats).
Politicians do what they do to get elected, folks. They appreciate the fact that people are quick to judge when they use a term (Republican, Democrat, etc)that, in most cases, means nothing in terms of what they believe. Today a Republican, tomorrow a Democrat, and next week...?
Instead of arguing whether something is "right wing", "left wing", or just spouting that something is "socialism", why not try to argue from facts instead of name-calling. Think about how Homeland Security just recently called gun owners "terrorists"... by that very decree sheeple everywhere breathed a sigh of relief because our society's problems are so easily solved: ban firearms = get rid terrorists (sarcasm). :banghead:
I don't care if a person "claims" something, it's what they do that I look at. Since this is a firearm-related site, I think it's wise when we have a potential candidate for Governor claim that he supports the 2nd Amendment but has said nothing about Michigan's registration system; like I said, it's what they do, not what they say.
That is not to say that I agree 100% w/ Malignity. I just interpreted the post as: IF anyone is interested, they can go (and perhaps OC?). I do understand Malignity's concern and feel it's valid in general, though. We are ostensibly here to further the cause of OC. We espouse a wide range of political and religious beliefs; that is what makes this group, in my opinion, a premier site for firearms in general. The only assumption I make when we are here is that we have the right (and perhaps an obligation) to OC and we desire to exercise and further that right without fear of harassment or arrest.