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    On friday july 31,2009 my wife and i went to the Target store on Greenbrier Parkway, in Chesapeake, VA I dropped her off at the door and went to park. As i entered the store a security gaurd stopped me and asked me if i was a police officer, i said no, he said i could not OC in the store. and had to leave. I said that was fine and told him it was not posted at the entranced, that firearms were not allowed. By this time my wife saw me and walked over to me. After i told her what was going on she took her purse from the buggy, which was quite full and said lets go spend our money where we are allowed to protect ourselves, and walked out.

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    I hope the cart was FULL of perishables! I don't shop at Target for that reason. They are notoriously anti-gun. I went in Target (before I OC'd) and asked where I could find ammunition. The salesperson gave me a really dirty look and said they didn't sell dangerous weapons or ammunition. I told her that you could make at least half of the merchandise into something deadly if you really wanted to. She looked at me as though I was speaking a foreign language.

    I haven't been in a Target since I HAD to buy a wedding gift formy step-sisterseveral months ago. She and her Husband-To-Be had "registered" there and made their wish list from Target. I knew they were anti-gun when I went in there, so I CC'd and spent my time saying "BAAAAAAAAA" whenever I came near a salesperson or customer. I CC'd at the wedding &the reception, surrounded by Osamabama supporters and various other sillycommunists. I know many of them saw my "Calvin ******* on the 'O" bumper sticker and wondered who it was... heheheheh... sillycommies...
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    MSC 45ACP wrote:
    I hope the cart was FULL of perishables! I don't shop at Target for that reason. They are notoriously anti-gun. I went in Target (before I OC'd) and asked where I could find ammunition. The salesperson gave me a really dirty look and said they didn't sell dangerous weapons or ammunition. I told her that you could make at least half of the merchandise into something deadly if you really wanted to. She looked at me as though I was speaking a foreign language.
    Well, it is an odd bit of logic that you used...

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    I've only OC'ed at Target a couple of times (the Chantilly store), but I've never had any problems.

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    Since I moved to Falls Church, I OC regularly at the Target on Arlington Blvd. I usually only go in when if I need something on my way home from work.

    I know they have seen my glock, and nobody has said a word.

    I do turn on my recorder before entering each time I go in.

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    HankT wrote:
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    I hope the cart was FULL of perishables! I don't shop at Target for that reason. They are notoriously anti-gun. I went in Target (before I OC'd) and asked where I could find ammunition. The salesperson gave me a really dirty look and said they didn't sell dangerous weapons or ammunition. I told her that you could make at least half of the merchandise into something deadly if you really wanted to. She looked at me as though I was speaking a foreign language.
    Well, it is an odd bit of logic that you used...
    howso? Target sells cutlery that can obviously be used as a weapon, they sell sporting goods, which can be used as weapons, etc.

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    nova wrote:
    HankT wrote:
    MSC 45ACP wrote:
    I hope the cart was FULL of perishables! I don't shop at Target for that reason. They are notoriously anti-gun. I went in Target (before I OC'd) and asked where I could find ammunition. The salesperson gave me a really dirty look and said they didn't sell dangerous weapons or ammunition. I told her that you could make at least half of the merchandise into something deadly if you really wanted to. She looked at me as though I was speaking a foreign language.
    Well, it is an odd bit of logic that you used...
    howso? Target sells cutlery that can obviously be used as a weapon, they sell sporting goods, which can be used as weapons, etc.
    Not to mention my favorite subject: CHEMISTRY... With a little creativity and common household chemicals, you can make ALL kinds of interesting things. Rapid decomposition of a substance... That's part of the definition for fire or explosion. There are other chemical compositions that can temporarily or permanently incapacitate an individual.

    I seriously doubt the female sales associatewith whom I shared this conversationhad an IQ much higher than the temperature of a well-chilled freezer. I envisioned her head like the possessed girl inThe Exorcist had I continued to extrapolate on the possibilites in the automotive and household chemical sections.

    HankT, Sorry if my response was over your head. I'll try to use smaller words and explain things more thoroughly for you in the future...
    "If I know that I am headed for a fight, I want something larger with more power, preferably crew-served.
    However, like most of us, as I go through my daily life, I carry something a bit more compact, with a lot less power."
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    "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~Thomas Jefferson
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    MSC 45ACP wrote:
    HankT, Sorry if my response was over your head. I'll try to use smaller words and explain things more thoroughly for you in the future...
    Pictures work better - especially the hand drawn variety.

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    Grapeshot wrote:
    MSC 45ACP wrote:
    HankT, Sorry if my response was over your head. I'll try to use smaller words and explain things more thoroughly for you in the future...
    Pictures work better - especially the hand drawn variety.

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    Very interesting situation. I've been OC-ing in Target stores since about 2005 in both Arizona and Virginia without any issues. Might be time to contact the home office ken.

    By the way, welcome to OCDO!

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    I OC often in the Libby Place Target and used to at the Forest Hill Targets (Richmond) without issue.

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    I OC in Sterling Target without issue.
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    i have went into all three targets at the beach with no problems while i OC. I will not be returning to the one in Ches. Was a shame that the buggy wasnt full of refrigerated items. LOL.

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    nova wrote:
    howso? Target sells cutlery that can obviously be used as a weapon, they sell sporting goods, which can be used as weapons, etc.
    And if you've ever watched Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure you should recall the mall scene where good ol' Ghengis Khan goes berserk in the sporting goods store...
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    MSC 45ACP wrote:
    I hope the cart was FULL of perishables!

    ken in vb wrote:
    Was a shame that the buggy wasnt full of refrigerated items. LOL.





    This is very weird thinking. Why on earth would you two think that? It seems rather childish, doesn't it?

    There are so many adult-like actions to take, such as making your legitimate complaint known to management, both local and corporate....

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    Never pass up the opportunity to badmouth someone else, eh Hank?

    It's not like they said, "Let's go fill up a cart with refrigerated and frozen foods and then hide it somewhere so they don't notice it until all the food is spoiled." It would be out in the open, obvious to the employee requiring the customer to leave. It would just be a fitting consequence to the business's decision to prohibit law-abiding gun owners from carrying their guns in the store.

    Ain't nothin' childish about it. "You asked me to leave, so I'm gonna leave. That cart's full of the stuff I was going to buy, but now I'm not since you're telling me to leave."

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    Whoa.....

    Native getting restless...





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    What the hell are you talking about, Hank? Your insults are so obscure they're hard to distinguish as insults.

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    I used to OC at the Target on Greenbriar Parkway, never had a problem.:?
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    TexasNative wrote:
    Your insults are so obscure they're hard to distinguish as insults.




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    i called the manager at the target, he said OC and CC is fine with him. he told me he would be talking to the security guard so the same thing doesn't happen again. I'm cool with that

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    Good report ken! Thanks for the follow-up.

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    nova wrote:
    HankT wrote:
    MSC 45ACP wrote:
    I hope the cart was FULL of perishables!┬* I don't shop at Target for that reason.┬* They are notoriously anti-gun.┬* I went in Target (before I OC'd) and asked where I could find ammunition.┬* The salesperson gave me a really dirty look and said they didn't sell dangerous weapons or ammunition.┬* I told her that you could make at least half of the merchandise into something deadly if you really wanted to.┬* She looked at me as though I was speaking a foreign language.┬*
    Well, it is an odd bit of logic that you used...
    howso? Target sells cutlery that can obviously be used as a weapon, they sell sporting goods, which can be used as weapons, etc.
    Two words for the housewives at Target who don't like their husbands anymore: bleach and ammonia

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    MSC 45ACP wrote:
    Not to mention my favorite subject: CHEMISTRY... With a little creativity and common household chemicals, you can make ALL kinds of interesting things. Rapid decomposition of a substance... That's part of the definition for fire or explosion. There are other chemical compositions that can temporarily or permanently incapacitate an individual.
    OK, I think this sounds like a new and very interesting thread...please post! :celebrate

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