chiefjason
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Thought I would share this as a learning experience so we know better what to expect. I was front ended today at a light. A guy from out of state ran past the line at the stop light while towing a trailer and tried to back up. He backed right up over the bumper of my Toyota Tacoma with his trailerd cadilac. Not much damage until I tried to open my hood to check the radiator. It would not budge. We pulled past the light and got over in a gravel pull off and I called HP.
Me and the other driver were talking in front of my truck as the officer pulled up. I did not have time to disarm as he apporached and was not about to until he arrived on scene anyway. I stepped around the front of my truck with my hands about chest high, pointed at my sidearm and asked if he wanted me to put it in my truck. Withouth missing a beat he said, "No, I'll take care of it." Before he finished the sentence he had closed the distance to me, had his hand on my holster, and immediately hit the lock on the Sherpa and had the Glock 19 in his hand. My thought was holy crap that was fast. He unloaded it and asked me to unlock my passenger door. He showed me that he put the pistol, clip and the +1 in the pipe on my seat. Then we locked the doors.
I've been in several different Terry Stop discussions on different boards lately. My thoughts are this. I called the HP to come investigate the accident. That puts me dealing with the officer on official business in an investigation. Maybe not strictly "crime afoot" but investigating a traffic accident. At that point we are being detained for the duration of the investigation anyway. In the cruiser he told me it was SOP to seperate the firearm from the subject during the investigation of the accident. He said tempers and heated arguments plus firearms could get bad. What are ya'll thoughts?
FWIW, we talked guns as much as we talked about the accident. All 3 of us in the patrol car talking shop about firearms. He said he had a Glock for his ankle rig and a Glock in 357 sig as his carry. When I asked him how he liked the 357 sig he proceeded to tell me he knew from experience it would go through a car. lol He complemented me on my firearm and made sure to tell me he was a strong supporter of my right to defend myself. We talked about cops not being there when it happens and coming in 15 minutes later to clean up and take notes. It had taken him 15 min to get there. He agreed and said it was unfortunate but that they occasionally where able to get somebody off the road before they did something to hurt somebody. There are a lot of bad situations with cops out there and I told him I did not think all cops looked at carry and defending yourself so well. But with 2 of these run ins in 2 days I'm pretty happy with some of the "Boys in Blue" on my side of the state. I'll get a bad one someday I'm sure.
I've been out of work for over a week since my surgery. I need to get back to work so I have less time to have these encounters! :lol:
Thought I would share this as a learning experience so we know better what to expect. I was front ended today at a light. A guy from out of state ran past the line at the stop light while towing a trailer and tried to back up. He backed right up over the bumper of my Toyota Tacoma with his trailerd cadilac. Not much damage until I tried to open my hood to check the radiator. It would not budge. We pulled past the light and got over in a gravel pull off and I called HP.
Me and the other driver were talking in front of my truck as the officer pulled up. I did not have time to disarm as he apporached and was not about to until he arrived on scene anyway. I stepped around the front of my truck with my hands about chest high, pointed at my sidearm and asked if he wanted me to put it in my truck. Withouth missing a beat he said, "No, I'll take care of it." Before he finished the sentence he had closed the distance to me, had his hand on my holster, and immediately hit the lock on the Sherpa and had the Glock 19 in his hand. My thought was holy crap that was fast. He unloaded it and asked me to unlock my passenger door. He showed me that he put the pistol, clip and the +1 in the pipe on my seat. Then we locked the doors.
I've been in several different Terry Stop discussions on different boards lately. My thoughts are this. I called the HP to come investigate the accident. That puts me dealing with the officer on official business in an investigation. Maybe not strictly "crime afoot" but investigating a traffic accident. At that point we are being detained for the duration of the investigation anyway. In the cruiser he told me it was SOP to seperate the firearm from the subject during the investigation of the accident. He said tempers and heated arguments plus firearms could get bad. What are ya'll thoughts?
FWIW, we talked guns as much as we talked about the accident. All 3 of us in the patrol car talking shop about firearms. He said he had a Glock for his ankle rig and a Glock in 357 sig as his carry. When I asked him how he liked the 357 sig he proceeded to tell me he knew from experience it would go through a car. lol He complemented me on my firearm and made sure to tell me he was a strong supporter of my right to defend myself. We talked about cops not being there when it happens and coming in 15 minutes later to clean up and take notes. It had taken him 15 min to get there. He agreed and said it was unfortunate but that they occasionally where able to get somebody off the road before they did something to hurt somebody. There are a lot of bad situations with cops out there and I told him I did not think all cops looked at carry and defending yourself so well. But with 2 of these run ins in 2 days I'm pretty happy with some of the "Boys in Blue" on my side of the state. I'll get a bad one someday I'm sure.
I've been out of work for over a week since my surgery. I need to get back to work so I have less time to have these encounters! :lol:
