Hillmann
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I have a question about at what point is it legal for LEO to sherch your posessions without your consent.
This happende last winter (sub zerro weather) I was driving in town with my son, neather of us buckled(Don't get sidetracked on seatbelt laws and saftey please), and got pulled over for expired plates. I showed the cop that I had the stickers for the plates in the glovebox and didn't want to put the on until it warmed up a litle so I could clean the plates and be sure the stickers would stick.
He saw a gun case sitting on the back dash(wasn't in trunk because the trunk leaks like crazy) an asked what was in it. I told him I wasn't sure but most likley it was a .22 or 20 gauge. He asked me how I could not know what was in it and I told him I shoot alot and have four or five cases and throw the gun into the first case I find.He asked if it was unloaded. I said yes. He than asked if he could check.
So my question is, at that point could he have checked without my consent since he originaly had prouable cause to pull me over but that was already cleared up and even if it haden't been cleared up would probable cause of no regstration on the car transfer over to probable cause to check weather my gun was loaded? or are those two seperate things and each would require ther own probable causeto allow him to search inside of my gun case?
I have a question about at what point is it legal for LEO to sherch your posessions without your consent.
This happende last winter (sub zerro weather) I was driving in town with my son, neather of us buckled(Don't get sidetracked on seatbelt laws and saftey please), and got pulled over for expired plates. I showed the cop that I had the stickers for the plates in the glovebox and didn't want to put the on until it warmed up a litle so I could clean the plates and be sure the stickers would stick.
He saw a gun case sitting on the back dash(wasn't in trunk because the trunk leaks like crazy) an asked what was in it. I told him I wasn't sure but most likley it was a .22 or 20 gauge. He asked me how I could not know what was in it and I told him I shoot alot and have four or five cases and throw the gun into the first case I find.He asked if it was unloaded. I said yes. He than asked if he could check.
So my question is, at that point could he have checked without my consent since he originaly had prouable cause to pull me over but that was already cleared up and even if it haden't been cleared up would probable cause of no regstration on the car transfer over to probable cause to check weather my gun was loaded? or are those two seperate things and each would require ther own probable causeto allow him to search inside of my gun case?