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    http://www.wowt.com/news/headlines/52583382.html


    Political Statement Frightens Neighbors




    Omaha Police rush to the Gifford Park Neighborhood after a caller reported a man, walking his dog, and carrying a big gun. The call was made on Monday, August 3rd shortly after 5PM.

    It did not take officers long to track down a suspect. When they approached the 51-year old man he had his dog on a leash, and had a silver handgun in a leather holster around his waist.

    When officers approached the man he allegedly told them he carries the gun around town on a regular basis, and it was his way of making a political statement.

    He then asked to speak to the officers' supervisor.

    After speaking with an Omaha Police Sergeant, James Medlock, 51 was cited and released. His handgun was confiscated.





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    "carrying a big gun" Hahahahahahahaha!

    To paraphrase Crocidile Dundee: "That's not a gun. THIS is a gun..."

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    Where do we contribute to his legal fund so he can sue their behinds off?

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    It seems he is (was?) a mayoral candidate.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5r-Tvr8hrg

    Has anyone contacted him?

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    PavePusher wrote:
    "carrying a big gun" Hahahahahahahaha!

    To paraphrase Crocidile Dundee: "That's not a gun. THIS is a gun..."
    No.....THIS is.......:celebrate



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    So do we know what he was cited for?

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    this guy is a weirdo

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    PolskiG wrote:
    this guy is a weirdo
    And this justifies denying his rights how? I am sure there are people who think you are a "weirdo", using your logic, you should be denied the right to keep and bear arms.

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    The Nebraska OCDO page says: Complete state preemption of firearms laws except several localities have passed and are enforcing laws that appear to be illegal under the preemption statute.

    Is there a Nebraska or illegal Omaha law that he could have been in violation of?
    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

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    Thundar wrote:
    The Nebraska OCDO page says: Complete state preemption of firearms laws except several localities have passed and are enforcing laws that appear to be illegal under the preemption statute.

    Is there a Nebraska or illegal Omaha law that he could have been in violation of?
    Believe that Omaha requires a special permit to OC.

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    Grapeshot wrote:
    Thundar wrote:
    The Nebraska OCDO page says: Complete state preemption of firearms laws except several localities have passed and are enforcing laws that appear to be illegal under the preemption statute.

    Is there a Nebraska or illegal Omaha law that he could have been in violation of?
    Believe that Omaha requires a special permit to OC.

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    That's correct. Omaha passed such a law back in the early nineties because the city fathers couldn't stand the thought that open carry was legal in the state. So the city council passed a law requiring a permit to carry openly. To get the permit one must take a firearms course approved by the city department of public safety (police dept.), submit an application to the police, and pay a fee. IIRC, the city was sued a year or so after passing the ordinance because the department of public safety had refused to take any action whatsoever towards issuing training standards, hence no one could take the training and get the permit.

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    Any follow-up or info on this case?

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    Nebraska Constitution states Article I, Section 1:

    "All persons are by nature free and independent, and have certain inherent and inalienable rights; among these are life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, and the right to keep and bear arms for security or defense of self, family, home, and others, and for lawful common defense, hunting, recreational use, and all other lawful purposes, and such rights shall not be denied or infringed by the state or any subdivision thereof. To secure these rights, and the protection of property, governments are instituted among people, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed".

    Nebrakans have to wake up and realize the second amendment has nothing to do with guns, it's about the people -not the government,having the monopoly on power.

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    IIRC, the guy at one time had an Omaha open carry permit, but let it expire in protest of Omaha's open carry law. I'm not sure if that is the whole story or not, for some reason there was a lack of media coverage on this. I can't seem to find the follow-up story on it.

    Now, while thatmay not have been a crime elsewhere in Nebraska, Omaha and other cities have several gun laws that are more restrictive than state law, sopeople need to be careful here. They have regulated open carry, require gun registration, made carrying tasers, stun guns, long guns, etc illegal, require fingerprints for all gun sales from individuals to gun stores, regardless if they are selling it at a pawn shop or wherever, etc.

    The reason they can do this is because there is no full pre-emption in Nebraska, therefor cities make up new gun laws at will, which they do enforce. The only state pre-emption is for CHP holders, and that only extends to handguns that stay concealed. Before that went into effect in late 2009,a lot ofcities were banning ccw altogether. So at least it finally put a stop to that. However, cities are still trampling over the pre-emption for permit holders,anyway (Omaha gun registration and fingerprinting for one). They don't seem to care what is illegal, andwhile there are laws on the book, theydo not seem to be enforced against them.

    Nebraska is a joke for gun rights.They can't, I'msorry, won't,even control their own cities.

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    I found this on the NRA website:

    "2. Hawaii, Illinois and Nebraska do not have statewide firearm preemption of local ordinances. Connecticut, Massachusetts, New Jersey, and New York have preemption through judicial ruling, not statute. In Massachusetts, local ordinances may be imposed if approved by the state legislature."

    It's good to know that Nebraska is grouped together with the likes of Illinois and Hawaii on this issue.

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    Ryan45cal wrote:
    ... Nebraska is a joke for gun rights.They can't, I'msorry, won't,even control their own cities.
    From what I saw during the years I lived in Nebraska it's more a case of the cities, i.e., Lincoln and especially Omaha, control the rest of the state. A cabal of prominent publishers, investors, and academics from the Omaha and Lincoln areas appeared to have a death lock on the Unicameral.

    I'm surprised that CHP is working out in Nebraska as well as it is because the original bill was practically a copy of the Omaha open carry ordinance. I'm also surprised that the Unicameral managed the gumption to actually pass preemption even if only for CHP.

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    had a silver handgun in a leather holster around his waist.

    Silver?

    Wow. I have a few handguns that are stainless, but I don't think I've seen a silver one.

    I wonder how silver wears over time?

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    Superlite27 wrote:
    had a silver handgun in a leather holster around his waist.
    Silver?

    Wow. I have a few handguns that are stainless, but I don't think I've seen a silver one.

    I wonder how silver wears over time?
    Guess they would have a field day with "silver bullets."

    They're for the vampires, don't you know.

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    Grapeshot wrote:
    Superlite27 wrote:
    had a silver handgun in a leather holster around his waist.
    Silver?

    Wow. I have a few handguns that are stainless, but I don't think I've seen a silver one.

    I wonder how silver wears over time?
    Guess they would have a field day with "silver bullets."

    They're for the vampires, don't you know.

    Yata hey
    I believe silver bullets are for werewolves. Wooden stakes, driven into the heart, are for vampires.

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    Task Force 16 wrote:
    Grapeshot wrote:
    Superlite27 wrote:
    had a silver handgun in a leather holster around his waist.
    Silver?

    Wow. I have a few handguns that are stainless, but I don't think I've seen a silver one.

    I wonder how silver wears over time?
    Guess they would have a field day with "silver bullets."

    They're for the vampires, don't you know.

    Yata hey
    I believe silver bullets are for werewolves. Wooden stakes, driven into the heart, are for vampires.
    Believe that Omaha (my old hometown) now has a hybrid cross of the two.

    Besides I'm not exactly the Lone Ranger.

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    PavePusher wrote:
    "carrying a big gun" Hahahahahahahaha!

    To paraphrase Crocidile Dundee: "That's not a gun. THIS is a gun..."
    Gun? I clearly remember the knife scene, and the punk who tried to rob him and his soon-to-be girlfriend. It was a knife! "That's not a knife. THIS is a knife!"


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    Statesman wrote:
    PavePusher wrote:
    "carrying a big gun" Hahahahahahahaha!

    To paraphrase Crocidile Dundee: "That's not a gun. THIS is a gun..."
    Gun? I clearly remember the knife scene, and the punk who tried to rob him and his soon-to-be girlfriend. It was a knife! "That's not a knife. THIS is a knife!"
    Guess you missed the word "paraphrase".

    He was making a point about the report that the man was carrying a "BIG GUN" as opposed to just an ordinary run of the mill gun, similarly, Crocidile Dundee was carrying a "BIG KNIFE" as opposed to the ordinary run of the mill knife that the punk was carrying.

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    no, this is a big gun...
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    Lo these many months, is there no knowledge of the outcome, disposition of the OP?

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    rpyne wrote:
    PolskiG wrote:
    this guy is a weirdo
    And this justifies denying his rights how? I am sure there are people who think you are a "weirdo", using your logic, you should be denied the right to keep and bear arms.
    Every night I walk my dog, I go heavy....Glock in Serpa on belt in plain view.
    http://youtu.be/xWgVGu3OR4U AACFI, Wisconsin / Minnesota Carry Certified. Action Pistol & Advanced Action pistol concepts + Urban Carbine course. When the entitlement Zombies begin looting, pillaging, raping, burning & killing..remember HEAD SHOTS it's the only way to kill a Zombie. Stockpile food & water now.

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    Glock34 wrote:
    rpyne wrote:
    PolskiG wrote:
    this guy is a weirdo
    And this justifies denying his rights how? I am sure there are people who think you are a "weirdo", using your logic, you should be denied the right to keep and bear arms.
    Every night I walk my dog, I go heavy....Glock in Serpa on belt in plain view.
    You'd be ok, Glocks aren't "big guns" or silver. I just carry my "medium" SIG 1911, of course it's shiny so may be made of silver...:?
    "For any man who sheds his blood with me this day shall be my brother...And gentlemen now abed shall think themselves accursed, they were not here, and hold their manhoods cheap whilst any speaks who fought with us on Crispin's day." Henry V

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