cynicist
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I just got stopped for "openly concealing."
I was walking home from karate practice, and came to an intersection on the highway, where there is no crosswalk light. There was a cop car right in front of me, and the guy was checking me out- I believe he could see my holster under my long shirt.
I placed my hand on it and jogged across the street, and as I expected, he pulls up behind me about a half-block away. I turn around and tell him "I have a license for it" as he's stepping out. That doesn't deter him much, and I mention again I have a license and gesture towards my back pocket, opposite of where the gun is, and he slaps the cuffs on me, explains that he's not arresting me, but he is detaining me. I wasn't sure about the law on this, but instinctively said "I don't think you can do that" he says "yes I can," pats me down, asks me if I have anything else; and I mention the extra mag and the knife. "21-XX, I'll be out with one, also... He's got a gun."
"And a license..." I mention in vain. "It's in the front flap, you'll see it as soon as you open the wallet."
I wasn't sure about what they can and can't do with CC RA, save demanding to see the license.
He takes the knife, the gun, and the mag and puts them on the hood. I could see the red dot on the side of the gun, which meant he actually took the safety off, but didn't unload it. Before he got into the car, he moved the barrel so it was pointing into the car, and then gets in. I casually mention that it was loaded and chambered.
I kept insisting that I had a CPL, and not until he put me in the car in handcuffs did he look for it. He ran my ID first, came back clean, then ran the gun for stolen, came back in my name, then the fun part:
The dispatch came back as showing no return on my CPL. Two more cops had showed up by now, since there was an incident of kid running around with a gun.
For a minute or two they were passing the license back and forth- "It looks real... Do you know whose signature that is?... Does the chief sign these?...I think I saw him leaving when he got it..." "A gun and a knife huh... "Yeah, in that neigborhood..." (the address on my CPL was from one of the worse parts of the city.) I had seen that particular officer a couple weeks before on the same block; he was checking the ground for brass after a shooting.
The guy comes over and asks who I dealt with to get it, and says they're going to call the chief and see what he says. They looked at my bag I was carrying and saw my karate stuff, and came over and made small talk about it while they were waiting for a response.
The sargeant (I think - he had stripes) recognized me from elsewhere and came up to the car and asked me something about the elsewhere, then soon after they let me out and suggested I go down to the station on Monday to get whatever needs to be fixed fixed.
They explained that when they see someone with a gun, they have to check, and considering a cop got shot about a mile from there a couple weeks ago, and the cop stopped me is rather new to the force, I'm not really mad. They told me they hoped they hadn't ruined my night, we chatted briefly about guns, they didn't bother with any of the why-do-you-carry-a-gun BS,and wished me a safe walk home.
So my question is, what can they do when they see you CC?
I just got stopped for "openly concealing."
I was walking home from karate practice, and came to an intersection on the highway, where there is no crosswalk light. There was a cop car right in front of me, and the guy was checking me out- I believe he could see my holster under my long shirt.
I placed my hand on it and jogged across the street, and as I expected, he pulls up behind me about a half-block away. I turn around and tell him "I have a license for it" as he's stepping out. That doesn't deter him much, and I mention again I have a license and gesture towards my back pocket, opposite of where the gun is, and he slaps the cuffs on me, explains that he's not arresting me, but he is detaining me. I wasn't sure about the law on this, but instinctively said "I don't think you can do that" he says "yes I can," pats me down, asks me if I have anything else; and I mention the extra mag and the knife. "21-XX, I'll be out with one, also... He's got a gun."
"And a license..." I mention in vain. "It's in the front flap, you'll see it as soon as you open the wallet."
I wasn't sure about what they can and can't do with CC RA, save demanding to see the license.
He takes the knife, the gun, and the mag and puts them on the hood. I could see the red dot on the side of the gun, which meant he actually took the safety off, but didn't unload it. Before he got into the car, he moved the barrel so it was pointing into the car, and then gets in. I casually mention that it was loaded and chambered.
I kept insisting that I had a CPL, and not until he put me in the car in handcuffs did he look for it. He ran my ID first, came back clean, then ran the gun for stolen, came back in my name, then the fun part:
The dispatch came back as showing no return on my CPL. Two more cops had showed up by now, since there was an incident of kid running around with a gun.
For a minute or two they were passing the license back and forth- "It looks real... Do you know whose signature that is?... Does the chief sign these?...I think I saw him leaving when he got it..." "A gun and a knife huh... "Yeah, in that neigborhood..." (the address on my CPL was from one of the worse parts of the city.) I had seen that particular officer a couple weeks before on the same block; he was checking the ground for brass after a shooting.
The guy comes over and asks who I dealt with to get it, and says they're going to call the chief and see what he says. They looked at my bag I was carrying and saw my karate stuff, and came over and made small talk about it while they were waiting for a response.
The sargeant (I think - he had stripes) recognized me from elsewhere and came up to the car and asked me something about the elsewhere, then soon after they let me out and suggested I go down to the station on Monday to get whatever needs to be fixed fixed.
They explained that when they see someone with a gun, they have to check, and considering a cop got shot about a mile from there a couple weeks ago, and the cop stopped me is rather new to the force, I'm not really mad. They told me they hoped they hadn't ruined my night, we chatted briefly about guns, they didn't bother with any of the why-do-you-carry-a-gun BS,and wished me a safe walk home.
So my question is, what can they do when they see you CC?