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    RCW 9.41.270
    Weapons apparently capable of producing bodily harm — Unlawful carrying or handling — Penalty — Exceptions.

    [/b](1) It shall be unlawful for any person to carry, exhibit, display, or draw any firearm, dagger, sword, knife or other cutting or stabbing instrument, club, or any other weapon apparently capable of producing bodily harm, in a manner, under circumstances, and at a time and place that either manifests an intent to intimidate another or that warrants alarm for the safety of other persons.

    could you OC or CC every day items, including your fists, and be found guilty of a violation this statuate?
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    im thinkin that if you open your coat to show a BG that you have a "rolling pin hidden on you", to scare him away from his threatening manner, you may be guilty! im sure we can all agree that showing a gun would be a violation, unless you were actually protecting yourself from an attack!
    EMNofSeattle wrote: Your idea of freedom terrifies me. So you are actually right. I am perfectly happy with what you call tyranny.....

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    Stand up for your Rights,, They have no authority on their own...

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    it is their right and duty to be at all times ARMED!

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    It depends.
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    RCW 9.41.270
    Weapons apparently capable of producing bodily harm — Unlawful carrying or handling — Penalty — Exceptions.

    (1) It shall be unlawful for any person to carry, exhibit, display, or draw any firearm, dagger, sword, knife or other cutting or stabbing instrument, club, or any other weapon apparently capable of producing bodily harm, in a manner, under circumstances, and at a time and place that either manifests an intent to intimidate another or that warrants alarm for the safety of other persons.

    could you OC or CC every day items, including your fists, and be found guilty of a violation this statuate?
    The RCW explains that it is unlawful to carry or handle in a manner, under circumstances, and at a time and place that either manifests an intent to intimidate another or that warrants an alarm for the safety of others. Obviously your fist is a body part. Using them with an intent to intimidate would be to act like you're going to punch someone.

    A person can legally carry a baseball bat around if they're not using it with an intent to intimidate. Such an intent could be looked at as something such as swinging it at objects with others around while yelling, or walking up to someone and doing a half swing on them. The key words here are "Intent to intimidate or cause an alarm for safety of others"

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    Your fists are not weapons.

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    p2a1x7 wrote:
    Your fists are not weapons.
    If you've been trained in any form of self defense like Karate or Boxing Im sure a prosecuter would say otherwise.

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    Aaron1124 wrote:
    The RCW explains that it is unlawful to carry or handle in a manner, under circumstances, and at a time and place that either manifests an intent to intimidate another or that warrants an alarm for the safety of others. Obviously your fist is a body part. Using them with an intent to intimidate would be to act like you're going to punch someone.

    A person can legally carry a baseball bat around if they're not using it with an intent to intimidate. Such an intent could be looked at as something such as swinging it at objects with others around while yelling, or walking up to someone and doing a half swing on them. The key words here are "Intent to intimidate or cause an alarm for safety of others"
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    Ravenhawk wrote:
    p2a1x7 wrote:
    Your fists are not weapons.
    If you've been trained in any form of self defense like Karate or Boxing Im sure a prosecuter would say otherwise.
    Are there any cases of someone being prosecuted for weapon related crimes when they were just unarmed? A prosecutor might make the claims that someone trained in martial arts used unnecessary force (killing someone that is also unarmed), but I doubt they would make the claim that they used a weapon.

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