Prophet
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Im in the southside of Pittsburgh on carson street after visiting the farmers market and I decide to hop on a bus heading downtown. Im in a pair of khaki shorts, a short sleeved shirt and my 1911 on my hip. The bus pulls up, opens the door, i take one step inside and the driver abruptly and rudely says:
"No, get off."
I respond: "why?"
him: "you can't have a gun on a pat bus"
me: "you are a government run bus service, you can't not allow me on for that"
him: "its pat rules, now get off"
me: "PAT can't have that rule but regardless, i'll contact them, what's your name" (so i can tell the PAT people who kicked me off the bus and stated this "policy")
him: "get off or i'll call the police"
me: "ok, call em"
Now, maybe the cops would know the law, maybe they wouldn't, but i wasnt going to just kow tow to this bully bus driver with his cop threats. So he hops on his lil phone to call and I get comfortable ready to wait. About 5 minutes pass by and he's still on the phone, he told whoever that I refused to get off after he kicked me off for having a gun. I dont know what they were telling him but after 5 minutes it seems he is losing his certainty. He say's he doesnt have a problem with carrying, he carries, etc etc but PAT bus has its rules. I'm getting tired myself of waiting (if the cops were ever called) and tell him if i can get his name so i can reference him when i call PAT i'll be happy to leave.
He gives me the number on his shirt that he says is like a badge number and I told him ok. I got off, recorded time, bus, and location.
Now, my question is this...is any rule PAT may have preempted by 19 PA 6120?
Specifically: (a) General rule.--No county, municipality or township may in any manner regulate the lawful ownership, possession, transfer or transportation of firearms, ammunition or ammunition components when carried or transported for purposes not prohibited by the laws of this Commonwealth.
Im in the southside of Pittsburgh on carson street after visiting the farmers market and I decide to hop on a bus heading downtown. Im in a pair of khaki shorts, a short sleeved shirt and my 1911 on my hip. The bus pulls up, opens the door, i take one step inside and the driver abruptly and rudely says:
"No, get off."
I respond: "why?"
him: "you can't have a gun on a pat bus"
me: "you are a government run bus service, you can't not allow me on for that"
him: "its pat rules, now get off"
me: "PAT can't have that rule but regardless, i'll contact them, what's your name" (so i can tell the PAT people who kicked me off the bus and stated this "policy")
him: "get off or i'll call the police"
me: "ok, call em"
Now, maybe the cops would know the law, maybe they wouldn't, but i wasnt going to just kow tow to this bully bus driver with his cop threats. So he hops on his lil phone to call and I get comfortable ready to wait. About 5 minutes pass by and he's still on the phone, he told whoever that I refused to get off after he kicked me off for having a gun. I dont know what they were telling him but after 5 minutes it seems he is losing his certainty. He say's he doesnt have a problem with carrying, he carries, etc etc but PAT bus has its rules. I'm getting tired myself of waiting (if the cops were ever called) and tell him if i can get his name so i can reference him when i call PAT i'll be happy to leave.
He gives me the number on his shirt that he says is like a badge number and I told him ok. I got off, recorded time, bus, and location.
Now, my question is this...is any rule PAT may have preempted by 19 PA 6120?
Specifically: (a) General rule.--No county, municipality or township may in any manner regulate the lawful ownership, possession, transfer or transportation of firearms, ammunition or ammunition components when carried or transported for purposes not prohibited by the laws of this Commonwealth.