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    Thanks...this guy's balls get busted...

    Bringing a gun to a health care debate with the president... geezz!!!

    This guy did not do OC any justice. Sorry if he is a member here. He sounded like a nut job.

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    LEO 229 wrote:
    Thanks...this guy's balls get busted...

    Bringing a gun to a health care debate with the president... geezz!!!

    This guy did not do OC any justice. Sorry if he is a member here. He sounded like a nut job.
    He has done more to bring OC to the front lines than anyone on this forum probably has. Overnight, like it or not people know OC is legal across the country. He displayed that simply carrying a gun is not a crime, doesn't mean you are going to commit a crime, and that you are an upstanding citizen.

    I don't see how he was a "nutjob" - the clear nutjob was Chris Matthews in the interview.

    He has more balls than you, more than I. Thats about it. I doubt I would have done it.

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    Why does Chris Mathews yell during every interview? Is that his normal speaking voice, or does he put on a special douch bag act just for msnbc?

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    words cannot explain the stupidity of chris matthews... one biased SOB

    i dont think it could get through his head that this dude was just carrying, not demonstrating a point or to show his political views. libs, what can you do...

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    LEO 229 wrote:
    Thanks...this guy's balls get busted...

    Bringing a gun to a health care debate with the president... geezz!!!

    This guy did not do OC any justice. Sorry if he is a member here. He sounded like a nut job.
    I have to disagree with you on this one LEO 229, When I first signed on here, I thought mountain jack was flirting with disaster concerning his Pa. incident, but what made the mountain out of the mole hill was the LEO officers and secret service, Both Mountain Jack and this latest fella were participating ina peacable assembly nothing more, and nothing less. I havn't read or heard of any disturbance initiation by either of the OC proponents that made the headlines, just the Leo,andS.S. and a few sheep gasping.But I do admit that I thought Mountain Jack was pushing the threshold of taunting the inevidable, and for that I concede that I was wrong and I think the man in the video handled himself very well with that Loudmouth Chris Mathews.

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    Carnivore wrote:
    LEO 229 wrote:
    Thanks...this guy's balls get busted...

    Bringing a gun to a health care debate with the president... geezz!!!

    This guy did not do OC any justice. Sorry if he is a member here. He sounded like a nut job.
    I have to disagree with you on this one LEO 229, When I first signed on here, I thought mountain jack was flirting with disaster concerning his Pa. incident, but what made the mountain out of the mole hill was the LEO officers and secret service, Both Mountain Jack and this latest fella were participating ina peacable assembly nothing more, and nothing less. I havn't read or heard of any disturbance initiation by either of the OC proponents that made the headlines, just the Leo,andS.S. and a few sheep gasping.But I do admit that I thought Mountain Jack was pushing the threshold of taunting the inevidable, and for that I concede that I was wrong and I think the man in the video handled himself very well with that Loudmouth Chris Mathews.
    There is always a time and place for everything.

    Going armed to an event involving the presidentmay be your right... but it does not mean it was a good decision.

    The even was about health care... not the second amendment or gun rights. So his carrying a gun only caused alarm and gave ammo to the gun haters.

    And to carry the sign he had while armed.... gives people a way of viewing him as a danger. And that is what was done successfully during the interview.

    Granted.. the interviewer was loud and hit him with questions affording no time to think. But the interview overall made several good points.




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    LEO 229 wrote:
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    Thanks...this guy's balls get busted...

    Bringing a gun to a health care debate with the president... geezz!!!

    This guy did not do OC any justice. Sorry if he is a member here. He sounded like a nut job.
    I have to disagree with you on this one LEO 229, When I first signed on here, I thought mountain jack was flirting with disaster concerning his Pa. incident, but what made the mountain out of the mole hill was the LEO officers and secret service, Both Mountain Jack and this latest fella were participating ina peacable assembly nothing more, and nothing less. I havn't read or heard of any disturbance initiation by either of the OC proponents that made the headlines, just the Leo,andS.S. and a few sheep gasping.But I do admit that I thought Mountain Jack was pushing the threshold of taunting the inevidable, and for that I concede that I was wrong and I think the man in the video handled himself very well with that Loudmouth Chris Mathews.
    There is always a time and place for everything.

    Going armed to an event involving the presidentmay be your right... but it does not mean it was a good decision.

    The even was about health care... not the second amendment or gun rights. So his carrying a gun only caused alarm and gave ammo to the gun haters.

    And to carry the sign he had while armed.... gives people a way of viewing him as a danger. And that is what was done successfully during the interview.

    Granted.. the interviewer was loud and hit him with questions affording no time to think. But the interview overall made several good points.


    So, are you on this committe that determines when it is ok to carry a firearm?

    Do you know when crimes are going to be committed?

    He hasn't "caused harm" to anything - gun haters will hate guns no matter what. I don't get why you think that anything will change their minds.

    Activists on the left push their agenda non-stop and they move the ball forward. The longer gun owners want to sit like cowards and hope that people don't get offended, the quicker we will lose all rights.

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    I say the President and his cronies need to do their homework and start picking locations where OC is against local ordinances, All their looking for is one gun in the crowd, and that gives the current administration ignitionto fire up their bandwagon which is Bull ShiZ, Their jumping from town to town where they most likely already someone will be OCing, and that's the real attention this current administration is hoping to bring to the attention of the nay sayers.. They feed on this!!

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    HO ho! A committee of two, the 'Goof with a gun determination committee' with hankT.

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    LEO 229 wrote:
    Thanks...this guy's balls get busted...

    Bringing a gun to a health care debate with the president... geezz!!!

    This guy did not do OC any justice. Sorry if he is a member here. He sounded like a nut job.
    No, he sounded like a Libertarian. The "nut jobs" are all in office. BTW, there are a lot of Libertarians on this forum and probably more of your friends and neighbors than you think.

    Since the current health care reform bill looks like it will take away a lot more freedom, I think it fits well to be exercising every right you still have while opposing it.
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    LEO 229 wrote:
    Thanks...this guy's balls get busted...

    Bringing a gun to a health care debate with the president... geezz!!!

    This guy did not do OC any justice. Sorry if he is a member here. He sounded like a nut job.
    He is a New Hampshire Free Stater, his view is typical in the group. His view happens to also be very similar to many people who are OC'ers.

    I don't have any problem of a person carrying a gun to a presidential debate. I do have an issue with him carrying the sign. Not for reasons of him looking bad, but he is taking away from his situational awareness while his hands are farther away from his firearm.
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    LEO 229 wrote:
    Thanks...this guy's balls get busted...

    Bringing a gun to a health care debate with the president... geezz!!!

    This guy did not do OC any justice. Sorry if he is a member here. He sounded like a nut job.
    Summer soldier.

    If we are not fit to carry guns near any of our citizens, we are not fit to carry guns, at all.

    The President is merely a citizen, of no greater worth than me. If our friend can carry a gun in my presence, he's certainly fit to carry it in the President's presence.

    You don't seem to have too strong of a command on the philosophy of RKBA.

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    LEO 229 wrote:
    There is always a time and place for everything.
    So how do I know when I don't need to be armed?

    Going armed to an event involving the president may be your right... but it does not mean it was a good decision.
    You're really not one of us.

    The even was about health care... not the second amendment or gun rights. So his carrying a gun only caused alarm and gave ammo to the gun haters.
    Like you?

    And to carry the sign he had while armed.... gives people a way of viewing him as a danger. And that is what was done successfully during the interview.
    I thought he kicked Matthews' ass. Admit it, you're not on Kostnic's side.

    Granted.. the interviewer was loud and hit him with questions affording no time to think. But the interview overall made several good points.
    Great work, Bill!

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    exercising his rights. nothing wrong with that. carry on!

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    He did not "go to the town hall meeting.." He was not in a secure area. He was near the meeting site, at a church, and the clergyman had given his permission.

    Chrissy Matthews is an ass, the man broke no laws.
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    LEO 229 wrote:
    Bringing a gun to a health care debate with the president... geezz!!!
    From what I have seen on several news reports, people protesting obamacare have been attacked by others. All I can think is "that is a perfectscenario to be armed and have the ability to defend yourself against others that may try to attack you"

    He was not in a S.S. sterile area, he was manyblocks away. The secret service had no issues with him, the localpolice had no issues with him. Just the far left leaning reporters had issues. How dare he exercise his right to keep and bear arms for any legal purpose, because we know the Kenyan in office has repeatedly voted (as a senator) to disarm everyone but the criminals.

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    So, are you on this committe that determines when it is ok to carry a firearm?

    Do you know when crimes are going to be committed?

    He hasn't "caused harm" to anything - gun haters will hate guns no matter what. I don't get why you think that anything will change their minds.

    Activists on the left push their agenda non-stop and they move the ball forward. The longer gun owners want to sit like cowards and hope that people don't get offended, the quicker we will lose all rights.
    I have not determined anything. It is general common sense that many people would conclude on their own when you are in close proximity of the POTUS. We can look back in history and see all the prior attempts in causing the POTUS harm. Men armed with guns.

    If you are so scared of crime.. stay home. Erect a 10 feet fence, install spot lights, and employ motion detectors.

    A piss poor attempt to justify being there armed IMO...

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    LEO 229 wrote:
    Carnivore wrote:
    LEO 229 wrote:
    Thanks...this guy's balls get busted...

    Bringing a gun to a health care debate with the president... geezz!!!

    This guy did not do OC any justice. Sorry if he is a member here. He sounded like a nut job.
    I have to disagree with you on this one LEO 229, When I first signed on here, I thought mountain jack was flirting with disaster concerning his Pa. incident, but what made the mountain out of the mole hill was the LEO officers and secret service, Both Mountain Jack and this latest fella were participating ina peacable assembly nothing more, and nothing less. I havn't read or heard of any disturbance initiation by either of the OC proponents that made the headlines, just the Leo,andS.S. and a few sheep gasping.But I do admit that I thought Mountain Jack was pushing the threshold of taunting the inevidable, and for that I concede that I was wrong and I think the man in the video handled himself very well with that Loudmouth Chris Mathews.
    There is always a time and place for everything.

    Going armed to an event involving the presidentmay be your right... but it does not mean it was a good decision.

    The even was about health care... not the second amendment or gun rights. So his carrying a gun only caused alarm and gave ammo to the gun haters.

    And to carry the sign he had while armed.... gives people a way of viewing him as a danger. And that is what was done successfully during the interview.

    Granted.. the interviewer was loud and hit him with questions affording no time to think. But the interview overall made several good points.


    How so? In the video I've seen to date, there was no panic, hysteria or hand-wringing done...except by the usual-suspect-media and a lot of people on Democratic Underground and Daily Kos whodon't seem to know anything about firearms law or Civil Rights.

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    LEO 229 wrote:
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    So, are you on this committe that determines when it is ok to carry a firearm?

    Do you know when crimes are going to be committed?

    He hasn't "caused harm" to anything - gun haters will hate guns no matter what. I don't get why you think that anything will change their minds.

    Activists on the left push their agenda non-stop and they move the ball forward. The longer gun owners want to sit like cowards and hope that people don't get offended, the quicker we will lose all rights.
    I have not determined anything. It is general common sense that many people would conclude on their own when you are in close proximity of the POTUS. We can look back in history and see all the prior attempts in causing the POTUS harm. Men armed with guns.

    If you are so scared of crime.. stay home. Erect a 10 feet fence, install spot lights, and employ motion detectors.

    A piss poor attempt to justify being there armed IMO...
    Or I could argue red herrings and strawmen all night.

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    LEO 229 wrote:
    hsmith wrote:
    So, are you on this committe that determines when it is ok to carry a firearm?

    Do you know when crimes are going to be committed?

    He hasn't "caused harm" to anything - gun haters will hate guns no matter what. I don't get why you think that anything will change their minds.

    Activists on the left push their agenda non-stop and they move the ball forward. The longer gun owners want to sit like cowards and hope that people don't get offended, the quicker we will lose all rights.
    I have not determined anything. It is general common sense that many people would conclude on their own when you are in close proximity of the POTUS. We can look back in history and see all the prior attempts in causing the POTUS harm. Men armed with guns.

    If you are so scared of crime.. stay home. Erect a 10 feet fence, install spot lights, and employ motion detectors.

    A piss poor attempt to justify being there armed IMO...
    How do you determine "close proximity"? From my understanding, the man was some distance away, certainly out of pistol shot range, and with no direct line-of-sight.

    Also, it seems to me that the "close proximity" excuse is perilously over the line of "some pigs is more equal than other pigs" (NOT a reference to the slang term for police!) philosophy, which I believe is a large part of this nations' current problems. The President should not trump Constitutional Rights, in fact, the moral high ground would be for him to embrace such. If a person is deemed to be a danger to the president, then they should be kept away from him/her. But the mere act of peacefully exercising Civil Rights should not be the determining factor.

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    LEO 229 wrote:
    A piss poor attempt to justify being there armed IMO...
    The whole idea of freedom is the the citizens don't have to "justify" themselves to the state.

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    LEO 229 wrote

    And to carry the sign he had while armed.... gives people a way of viewing him as a danger. And that is what was done successfully during the interview.
    I'd hazard to say that the meaning of the sign was lost on the majority of people viewing the original coverage.

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    LEO 229 wrote:
    Carnivore wrote:
    LEO 229 wrote:
    Thanks...this guy's balls get busted...

    Bringing a gun to a health care debate with the president... geezz!!!

    This guy did not do OC any justice. Sorry if he is a member here. He sounded like a nut job.
    I have to disagree with you on this one LEO 229, When I first signed on here, I thought mountain jack was flirting with disaster concerning his Pa. incident, but what made the mountain out of the mole hill was the LEO officers and secret service, Both Mountain Jack and this latest fella were participating ina peacable assembly nothing more, and nothing less. I havn't read or heard of any disturbance initiation by either of the OC proponents that made the headlines, just the Leo,andS.S. and a few sheep gasping.But I do admit that I thought Mountain Jack was pushing the threshold of taunting the inevidable, and for that I concede that I was wrong and I think the man in the video handled himself very well with that Loudmouth Chris Mathews.
    There is always a time and place for everything.

    Going armed to an event involving the presidentmay be your right... but it does not mean it was a good decision.

    The even was about health care... not the second amendment or gun rights. So his carrying a gun only caused alarm and gave ammo to the gun haters.

    And to carry the sign he had while armed.... gives people a way of viewing him as a danger. And that is what was done successfully during the interview.

    Granted.. the interviewer was loud and hit him with questions affording no time to think. But the interview overall made several good points.


    The time for protecting yourself and your family is all the time and every place.

    And this was a great decision. This guy put his neck out there for the right to bear arms like you never have and likely never will.

    LEO229, I tire of sticking up for you when folks bash you. You really don't have your priorities straight. Individual liberty first, being a cop and obeying your president and all that crap second, if it even deserves a ranking. You are like a robot programmed to state the party line for authority.

    And that is why so many people here blow you off.

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    This man is my new open carry hero!!!! I can't believe this whole site isn't just jumping for joy at the instant publicity our cause just received. The interview was fantastic. Spoken better than most of us could probably do under the pressure of national tv. He even mentioned this site's slogan on rights word for word. He has lifted my courage to open carry to a new level and educated more people to OC than many of us will do in our lifetime.

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