Interview with guy who brought gun to Obama speech

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Interesting...

I'd have thought the public event being hosted at the school would prohibit them from asking people to leave. In Alaska, we had a bunch of hippie nut jobs which the PD couldn't do anything about during the job fair when they were protesting against the Marines which were giving out career info at the job fair.

The PD had to escort the Marines out of the city for their own protection.

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insane.kangaroo wrote:

Interesting...

I'd have thought the public event being hosted at the school would prohibit them from asking people to leave. In Alaska, we had a bunch of hippie nut jobs which the PD couldn't do anything about during the job fair when they were protesting against the Marines which were giving out career info at the job fair.

The PD had to escort the Marines out of the city for their own protection.

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Me thinks it might have been better to turn the Marines lose and let them secure their own safety.

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I could see such an incident.

Officer 1: "You do realize the hippie will be permanently hospitalized?"
Marine 1: "Sir, I was fighting a domestic terrorist."

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insane.kangaroo wrote:

Hey, I know! The secret service should just stop having people shake the president's hand. Let's seal the POTUS in a bubble and place the start of the art system around the guy.

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It's the PopeMobile! Of course HisArrogancy would surely demand it be renamed...

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SouthernBoy wrote:

insane.kangaroo wrote:

Interesting...

I'd have thought the public event being hosted at the school would prohibit them from asking people to leave. In Alaska, we had a bunch of hippie nut jobs which the PD couldn't do anything about during the job fair when they were protesting against the Marines which were giving out career info at the job fair.

The PD had to escort the Marines out of the city for their own protection.

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Me thinks it might have been better to turn the Marines lose and let them secure their own safety.

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Give peace a chance.

Seriously.

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LEO 229 wrote:

If the president is assassinated.. this IS a big deal. Normal & rational people know that bringing a gun to such an event is not going to be so well accepted. It is hard enough now to walk around town armed without someonecalling 9-1-1 on you.

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Who the F is talking about assasination? Why do you have to be such a drama queen? This guy obeyed the law. He did NOT go near the president armed. Had he done so he would've been arrested. So stop thewhining already. Go find your buddy Chris Matthews and have a Shirley Temple.

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smoking357 wrote:

LEO 229 wrote:

Thanks...this guy's balls get busted... :lol:

Bringing a gun to a health care debate with the president... geezz!!!

This guy did not do OC any justice. Sorry if he is a member here. He sounded like a nut job.

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Summer soldier.

If we are not fit to carry guns near any of our citizens, we are not fit to carry guns, at all.

The President is merely a citizen, of no greater worth than me. If our friend can carry a gun in my presence, he's certainly fit to carry it in the President's presence.

You don't seem to have too strong of a command on the philosophy of RKBA.

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Good post.

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LEO 229 wrote:

While YOU may not view the position as president to be all that important... many other people do. Not only that.. there are actually people who desire to hurt or kill our leaders.

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Nobody should have desires to hurt anyone, regardless of position, title, or job.

But you are right, there are some people have desires to hurt elected officials as well as otherpeople in our society. However, not one personis more important than the other. There are three branches of government and not one has less constitutional viability than the other. This is not a Kingdom.

One correction I would like to make..., they are not our leaders. They are our elected represenatives and they work for you, not the other way around. We do not elect them to lead us - they are elected to represent us, from among us, to speak for us.

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LEO 229 wrote:

There is always a time and place for everything.

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And whom determines that?

Going armed to an event involving the presidentmay be your right... but it does not mean it was a good decision.

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Again, whom determines that?

The man did what he thought was right and demonstrated something he believes in and took a stand.

What have you done for liberty today?

The even was about health care... not the second amendment or gun rights. So his carrying a gun only caused alarm and gave ammo to the gun haters.

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What does it matter what the event was about? Are we not allowed to exercise more than one right at a time?

How ridiculous.

And to carry the sign he had while armed.... gives people a way of viewing him as a danger. And that is what was done successfully during the interview.

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So now exercising more than one right at a time is a danger?

Granted.. the interviewer was loud and hit him with questions affording no time to think.

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Not to mentioned cursing at and badgering the poor guy.

This is how absurd things have gotten in our country. To have a man open carrying a sidearm apparently warrants national media attention and to be deamonized and badgered by the popular mediatalking heads.

But the interview overall made several good points.

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Such as?

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astraflyr wrote:

This man is my new open carry hero!!!! I can't believe this whole site isn't just jumping for joy .....

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10-4 to both points.

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Going armed to an event involving the presidentmay be your right... but it does not mean it was a good decision.

The even was about health care... not the second amendment or gun rights. So his carrying a gun only caused alarm and gave ammo to the gun haters.

And to carry the sign he had while armed.... gives people a way of viewing him as a danger. And that is what was done successfully during the interview.

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First off, I don't see how Kostric came across as a "nut job" at all. He answered clearly, didn't become rattled by the loudmouth d-bag Matthews, he refused to answer a question that he wasn't certain of the answer to, he didn't let Matthews play him into saying anything incriminating...

He did the exact thing that we here do, and for the same reasons, only at a different, high-profile venue. There are often times when I feel that my openly carrying a firearm, handing out trifolds, attending events...isn't enough. There are times when I'd like to "speak louder" and that's exactly what Kostric did. I think he represented the armed citizen well. Ever since Obama took office, we've all been aware of his stance on firearms, and we've rightly felt that our 2nd Amendment rights are in jeopardy. Therefore, whether the meeting was on health care or not, I feel that every minute this man is in office is partly about guns and 2nd Amendment rights.

You say "So his carrying a gun only caused alarm and gave ammo to the gun haters." That's the case wherever, whenever anyone is armed in public because it makes the anti's always start in with their "what if's...". ANY civiliancarrying a gun ANYWHERE alarms anti's, and is considered a danger. Thought we were used to that. Also, since no one was harmed as he succeeded in his lawful, peaceful protest, I don't see how that gave the anti's any "ammo" they didn't already have. He made our point that lawfully armed citizens doesn't equal blood in the streets.

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Kostnik made a very valid point that all Presidents that have been shot were done so with a gun that came from a concealed position. I wonder how many were carrying concealed that no one ever knew about.

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rodbender wrote:

Kostnik made a very valid point that all Presidents that have been shot were done so with a gun that came from a concealed position. I wonder how many were carrying concealed that no one ever knew about.

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3flippin pages of useless drivel and argumants for andagainst it, and finally rodbenderstates afact that isglaringly obvious to all of us, But all the people that got their panties in a bunch never even thought of that. I guess the phrase "Out of sight, out of mind" really rings true these days.

How many people were present? I bet at least 20% of those people were armed!
(I did not research the percentage of legal gun owners for that states, so it is strictly a guess)

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Here it is. The brady bunch has already made their press release.Please people, use common sense. You know, that common sense that is often not common, andnot very sensible.

http://www.bradycampaign.org/media/release.php?release=1171

News Release
Use Common Sense:
Keep Guns Out Of Town Hall Debates,
Away From Presidential Speaking Events

[align=left]For Immediate Release:
08-11-2009

Contact Communications:
(202) 898-0792
Washington, DC – Paul Helmke, President of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, released the following statement on news reports that more people are bringing loaded handguns to town hall debates over health care, even to President Obama's town hall in New Hampshire today:

"Let's be clear: it is dangerous to allow the carrying of loaded handguns to the 'town hall' meetings hosting heated discussions about health care and other issues around the country. Except for trained law enforcement, it is unthinkable to allow people with loaded guns near the President of the United States.

"We should decide contentious public issues with ballots, not bullets. The 'any gun, any where, any time' mentality of a few must give way to common sense before innocent people get hurt."

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So far, there have been three reported incidents of guns being brought to town halls in the past week:

Gun brought to town hall in Memphis, Tennessee: http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/obama-to-enter-town-hall-fray-2009-08-11.html

Gun dropped at town hall in Sierra Vista, Arizona: http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/printDS/304149

Gun brought to President Obama's town hall today in Portsmouth, New Hampshire: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/11/protester-with-gun-found_n_256614.html[/align]
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[align=left]
[align=left]As the nation's largest, non-partisan, grassroots organization leading the fight to prevent gun violence, the Brady Campaign, with its dedicated network of Million Mom March Chapters, works to enact and enforce sensible gun laws, regulations and public policies. The Brady Campaign is devoted to creating an America free from gun violence, where all Americans are safe at home, at school, at work, and in our communities. [/align]
[align=left]For continuing insight and comment on the gun issue, read Paul Helmke's blog at www.bradycampaign.org/blog/. Visit the Brady Campaign website at www.bradycampaign.org. [/align]
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Right. Use a retention holster when carrying. Dropping a gun is unacceptable.

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insane.kangaroo wrote:

Right. Use a retention holster when carrying. Dropping a gun is unacceptable.

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No doubt. Der.

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The mention of conspiracy leads me to link this web forum's discussion on the very same topic. http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread490776/pg1
-If one is to read through the responses, one may find that many, many, many Americans applaud this man's freedom to do what he pleases, where he pleases, under the law. Anyway- the other forum's conversion on the subject is just as interesting as ours- take a look.

I think another point to make is that there is a school of thought reminding us that the majority of Americans have been desensitized to violence with the explosion of violent video games, television shows, and movies, etc. The interesting subject matter being that while we are "desensitized", we cannot, as a nation, handle the reality of our fantasies.

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buster81 wrote:

Here it is. The brady bunch has already made their press release.Please people, use common sense. You know, that common sense that is often not common, andnot very sensible.

http://www.bradycampaign.org/media/release.php?release=1171

News Release
Use Common Sense:
Keep Guns Out Of Town Hall Debates,
Away From Presidential Speaking Events

[align=left]For Immediate Release:
08-11-2009

Contact Communications:
(202) 898-0792

Washington, DC – Paul Helmke, President of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, released the following statement on news reports that more people are bringing loaded handguns to town hall debates over health care, even to President Obama's town hall in New Hampshire today:

"Let's be clear: it is dangerous to allow the carrying of loaded handguns to the 'town hall' meetings hosting heated discussions about health care and other issues around the country. Except for trained law enforcement, it is unthinkable to allow people with loaded guns near the President of the United States.

"We should decide contentious public issues with ballots, not bullets. The 'any gun, any where, any time' mentality of a few must give way to common sense before innocent people get hurt."

#

So far, there have been three reported incidents of guns being brought to town halls in the past week:

Gun brought to town hall in Memphis, Tennessee: http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/obama-to-enter-town-hall-fray-2009-08-11.html

Gun dropped at town hall in Sierra Vista, Arizona: http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/printDS/304149

Gun brought to President Obama's town hall today in Portsmouth, New Hampshire: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/11/protester-with-gun-found_n_256614.html[/align]
[align=center]# # #[/align]
[align=left]
[/align][align=left]As the nation's largest, non-partisan, grassroots organization leading the fight to prevent gun violence, the Brady Campaign, with its dedicated network of Million Mom March Chapters, works to enact and enforce sensible gun laws, regulations and public policies. The Brady Campaign is devoted to creating an America free from gun violence, where all Americans are safe at home, at school, at work, and in our communities. [/align]
[align=left]For continuing insight and comment on the gun issue, read Paul Helmke's blog at http://www.bradycampaign.org/blog/. Visit the Brady Campaign website at http://www.bradycampaign.org. [/align]

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And yet, somehow when pro Obamacare thugs accosted William Kostic, he didn't draw and start his gun ablazin.

But the thugs DID back off when they saw his gun.

So just to be clear - Brady campaign prefers protesters to be intimidated , spat upon and literally stomped by thugs rather than have the means to self defense.

I guess that makes sense for socialist progressives. Without a means so self defense, the thugs could have maybe knocked some more heads around and make people afraid to speak out for their rights. I guess them controlling the speakers inside the forum was not enough, they want thugs to be free to assault people at will in the streets as well - because notice, the cops did NOTHING against the thugs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUxjahek0f8

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I support his right, Mr Obama can choose not to attend, or redress the government
to get the law changed.

But I do know this, if someone were to draw a gun and point at him, I will not
touch mine unless he puts me between them. I do not want to be mistaken
for the bad guy.

He has never had a problem being among all the armed crooks in chicago,
so why is NH so special.

I am trying to think of any president being shot be someone carrying the pistol
openly on their hip. Correct me if they didn't all use a concealed ones.

But the big question to ask the man.....
I believe you won't pull the plug on grandma, but it would make my job
easier to repute the protesters if you could tell me why you have already
tuned off her water and are waiting for her to die of thirst in southern kommifornia.

Follow up of ....
Why isn't shutting down the coal power plant which turns off the power to
the plug not the same thing as pulling the plug out of the wall?

As for the pope mobile, I am INSULTED you want to demote the man.:lol:
But shouldn't hillery get the pope mobile as she is his human mouthpiece on earth?


I was approached by two brown shirts at my senators town hall yesterday.
They got very upset when I announced "Two Brown Shirts, don't worry I am
already snitched on and registered as one of the bad guys." :celebrate:celebrate

Had a great conversation with a county commissioner about the sheriff, and police
chiefs disrespect of the law.
Saw my first fellow OC'er ever on sunday, and had no way to go up and say hi. :cuss::cuss:

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As stated previously, the president is a normal citizen he just has been elected to speak for us and represent us. he is not above the law.



LEO229 you need to do some serious rethinking before you post on this topic again. You sir, seem to have you priorities backwards.



What this man did helped our cause greatly, and we must all realize that (for those that dont already).