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    Hey guys!

    I know it's last minute, but I just found out about it.

    Any volunteers to man a table at the Novi Gun and Knife Show this weekend? we need to be at the show the entire weekend. I can do several hours on Saturday and I have one person that can help a bit on Sunday, but I can't do both days for the entire time weekend. (Sat 9am - 5pm --- Sun 10am - 3pm).

    It is $45 for the table. This show is big -- 800 tables. We would have to let the guy know by Friday night.

    We would need MOC brochures printed up, if each volunteer could print up 100 or so B&W is fine that would help me.

    Anyone?

    Novi Gun and Knife Show
    http://www.migunshows.com

    Open Date: Sat, August 15, 2009
    Close Date: Sun, August 16, 2009


    Description: Features 800 tables filled with shotguns, rifles, handguns, scopes, knifes, shooting supplies, ammunition, reloading equipment, gun cases, pistol and rifle magazines, military surplus, collector items, archery, fishing supplies, safes, custom handmade gun cabinets, wild game jerky and much more. You never know what you'll find.

    Location: Rock Financial Showplace
    46100 Grand River Avenue
    Novi,MI 48370

    Phone Number: (517) 676-4160 Fax Number: (517) 676-6824
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    I can be there for Saturday. I also have several hundred brochures printed up, still need to be folded though.

    I assume that we are not going to be able to carry in there?

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    ISMOID wrote:
    I can be there for Saturday. I also have several hundred brochures printed up, still need to be folded though.

    I assume that we are not going to be able to carry in there?
    Correct. All MI Gun Shows (put on by MIGunShows) have the following rules:

    . All handguns will be tied down or in showcases. No
    unsecured handguns on tables. No loose ammo on tables.

    2. All vendors must open for business when show opens.
    (This is when most vendors lose inventory.)

    3. All vendors are responsible for disposing of all trash at
    the end of every show.

    4. Vendors must stay for the entire show unless previously
    approved by, owner, Doug Carl. No early packing.

    5. No loaded firearms in show, except for police officers
    with badge and I.D.


    6. Licensed vendors must bring a copy of your current FFL
    and Sales Tax if you have one.

    7. Exhibitors may not sell food at their tables, unless previously
    approved by, owner, Doug Carl. The candy, etc. is a violation
    of our contract with the food vendor present.

    8. Cancellations must be made by Sunday, before 8pm,
    preceeding the reserved show date.

    9. Single table vendors are allowed two badges only. Extra
    badges must be purchased.

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    I can be there Saturday the whole time. I'll bring at least 100 b/w brochures.

    Can we open carry?

    I don't have muchfree cash; I won't have to pay an admission (or at least it would only be a few bucks)? That would be a deal-breaker for me being able to be there.
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    zigziggityzoo wrote:
    Correct. All MI Gun Shows (put on by MIGunShows) have the following rules:

    . All handguns will be tied down or in showcases. No
    unsecured handguns on tables. No loose ammo on tables.

    . . . . .
    5. No loaded firearms in show, except for police officers
    with badge and I.D.
    So, would an unloaded handgun in a positive retention holster be considered "tied down" and OK? If it had to be literally "tied down", would a lanyard or other rope tying it to the holster or wearer be fine?
    "The principle of self-defense, even involving weapons and bloodshed, has never been condemned, even by Gandhi . . ."--Dr. Martin Luther King Jr

    “He who cannot protect himself or his nearest and dearest or their honor by non-violently facing death, may and ought to do so by violently dealing with the oppressor. He who can do neither of the two is a burden.”--M. K. Gandhi

    "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." --M. K. Gandhi

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    I'll check into admission fees for vendors, I suspect we would get in free. We may have to buy a couple more badges.

    Anyone interested in Sunday. Terri Stocke President of SAM I think will be there on Sunday.
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    Venator wrote:
    I'll check into admission fees for vendors . . .
    Because an actual openly carried handgun isintegral to our message, would it be worthwhile to also check if the owner of the show is OK with us complying with the "unloaded and tied down" handgun rules by open carrying unloaded handguns in either a retention holster or secured by lanyard or other means to a holster?
    "The principle of self-defense, even involving weapons and bloodshed, has never been condemned, even by Gandhi . . ."--Dr. Martin Luther King Jr

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    "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." --M. K. Gandhi

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    I doubt OC or CC will be allowed. People that man the tables get in free. There wouldbe times they could visit the other tables, so a good deal.

    Terri and her husband will be there for about 5 hours on Sunday. We have to man the table for the entire show, so we need a few on Sunday as well.

    So I need to know who is ready to commit to a Saturday orSunday or both.

    I plan on being there all day Saturday. I can't be there on Sunday.
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    Venator wrote:
    So I need to know who is ready to commit to a Saturday orSunday or both.
    I can commit to all day Saturday. I have to be out right at the close of 5 pm. I have business in Cantonlater.
    "The principle of self-defense, even involving weapons and bloodshed, has never been condemned, even by Gandhi . . ."--Dr. Martin Luther King Jr

    “He who cannot protect himself or his nearest and dearest or their honor by non-violently facing death, may and ought to do so by violently dealing with the oppressor. He who can do neither of the two is a burden.”--M. K. Gandhi

    "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." --M. K. Gandhi

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    DanM wrote:
    Venator wrote:
    So I need to know who is ready to commit to a Saturday orSunday or both.
    I can commit to all day Saturday. I have to be out right at the close of 5 pm. I have business in Cantonlater.
    Thanks Dan. I still need someone for Sunday. Sunday is from 10:00 to 3:00. Anyone???
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    Hey Ven,

    Keep in mind the guy who runs the shows in Michigan is the same guy that ownes Total Firearms in Mason Michigan and is a staunch opponent to oc. He was the "you give up the right to oc when you take a cpl" guy!!

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    Keep in mind the Macomb Twp. picinic is this Sun. Sorry I won't see you there Dan, been ridiculously busy and missed the AH picnic

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    I don't know about the Novi show. But the rules are the same in GR, and I open carried many times as a customer with an unloaded gun. Also I know that a lot of the dealers who are not cops CC and OC with a loaded gun with no problems. I would say OC unloaded is more than fine. I checked at the door and they said I could if it was not loaded.

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    yowilhelm wrote:
    Hey Ven,

    Keep in mind the guy who runs the shows in Michigan is the same guy that ownes Total Firearms in Mason Michigan and is a staunch opponent to oc. He was the "you give up the right to oc when you take a cpl" guy!!
    Oh I know. Dealt with them a few times. Perhaps we will stop by and I can change his mind. But many vendors OC unloaded as was stated. Sowho knows.

    STILL NEED SOMEONE for Sunday.
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    ISMOID wrote:
    have several hundred brochures printed up, still need to be folded though.
    Done folding! See you in the morning.

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    As of 9:25 PM we have not verified a table. I have contacted our two volunteers, thanks guys, and told them such.


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    ya I went Saturday but wasnt aware it closed at 5 totally was bumbed

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