Olympia editorial: Gun owners are "delusional"

Who's Alex Jones?

I have read everything from Milton Friedman I could. I listen to and read the works by economists who called the current situation almost to the amount that it would end up costing us... and I've been an avid student of the Austrian school of Economics.

I've read "Principles of Economics" by Carl Menger, "Economics in One Lesson" by Henry Hazlitt and "Individualism and Economic Order" by Friedrich Hayek and like anyone who pays attention to the economic history of the world, I understand just what the cause and effect relationship is with the monetary policies of the arrogant bankers and politicians of the world... every time they think they can beat the laws of economics... they get their asses kicked.

The name Alex Jones sounds familiar... what did he write? Is he an economist? Or is he a crackpot like Naomi Wolf who thinks they know economics and get a rabid following of like minded morons who spout inaccuracies and lies about what causes economic downturns and how capitalism is evil and so on and so forth.

I’m not relying on news agencies, cable or radio talk shows… I’m educating myself with facts and solid theory. The Keynesians have been proved wrong, yet their economic philosophies dominate, not by fact and truth, but by demagoguery and obfuscation.

There are plenty of real economists who know what is coming. People who were right about this economic catastrophe and predicted it. I won’t listen to those who were caught off guard by this latest economic downturn because they areidiots.

So insult me if you want... I don't care... and don't prepare for what is coming... that's going to be your problem, not mine.

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You sir have made me want to prepare one thing... my vocabulary the next time I read one of your posts... I had to look these words up. and to ease everyone's fears yes they are in fact words.

Alex Trebek doesn't use these words. I am impressed I dont believe a man in a bunker in the woods would use such words as others have stated.:lol:

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Right. A rabid far right extremist who doesn't know who Alex Jones and infowars.com is like a liberal who doesn't read the daily kos. Good one there though.

Well, since you are clearly an expert in economics now, and know so much better than mere mortals, you can keep clinging to the "Well when the collapse comes..." line like your type have been for decades. Good job on the googled book list though. You keep that next to your copy of The Turner Diaries?

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brianstone1985 wrote:

You sir have made me want to prepare one thing... my vocabulary the next time I read one of your posts... I had to look these words up. and to ease everyone's fears yes they are in fact words.

Alex Trebek doesn't use these words. I am impressed I dont believe a man in a bunker in the woods would use such words as others have stated.:lol:

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Anyone who doesn't understand Keynesian and Austrian economics... probably shouldn't be talking economics.

That includes all the Keynesian economists.

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Liberal eh? Yeah, that's the stock line for anyone who doesn't drink your flavor of koolaid. One either is in lockstep unison with your crazed worldview, or is a liberal. I just can't stomach the extremists like you... 3000 posts, and an FAQ later and I'm the troll. Got it. You claim to not be one of the right wing kooks, but you sure as hell pal around with them. You probably would fit in better with the racists and wackjobs on the AK Files.

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Oh I like Ron Paul. I just don't like you. It was your wanna be mulisha ideals that decided it for me.

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Don't be too upset; it's common practice to shoot down the message because of who the messenger is. Or, for Funk Trooper's benefit: what if Alex Jones agreed with Funk Trooper on something? (I say this because FT has almost always had great posts.)

My degree is in Economics and I can say that none of my college courses came close to what Ayn Rand said in Atlas Shrugged in accurately describing what money is. She also wrote about the creation of wealth and the morality of production in far better terms. There's a reason for that. (IMHO)

The Hyeks, Friedmans, Rands, and Bastiats of the world are seeking truth and an explanation of it. The leftists are seeking to follow the Unwritten Dress Code for the Mind that is political correctness. When you read the works of the former they seek to explain what they believe. In attempting to clarify they leave themselves open to attack, which is the way of the honest intellectual. The lefties seek to obfuscate. How does one intellectually attack what he doesn't understand? If he says it doesn't make sense, they say he can't grasp concepts. As if grasping the mental Mobius ring that is Liberalism is an achievement!

MD

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I'm sorry if you took offense Washintonian_For_Liberty I wasn't trying to insult you. I think you and SV just need to cool off for a bit, your bickering between each other really degrades this forum and it's message.

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Anyone who doesn't understand Keynesian and Austrian economics... probably shouldn't be talking economics.

That includes all the Keynesian economists.

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44Brent wrote:

Come on. Everybody should take a deep breath and calm down before they add to their arsenal needlessly by stocking up on weapons that have no useful purpose.

The Second Amendment of the Constitution is not under assault. The country isn’t spiraling out of control. Peaceful, law-abiding citizens aren’t about to lose their right to bear arms.

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The writer, along with many other people are delusional. This country is headed for a collapse unlike any we've seen before.

The collapse however could very well be being orchestrated. Very quietly, a little more than a week ago, the Federal Reserve monetized 47% of our new debt. Anyone who has studied economics and has a firm grasp on the laws of economics understands that you cannot monetize debt without causing inflation. What's more, as the economy contracts and the debt ceiling is increased along with our debt, we are on a collision course for hyperinflation ala the Wiemar Republic or Zimbabwe. Of course, those in Washington arrogantly believe they can reverse the inflation by taking currency out of the market.... however, that is hard when its just a couple of billion... the money being printed and flooded into the market is more than 10 times that amount.

Like most people who are yelling the loudest for us to shut up, or calling us conspiracy theorists, this writer has no clue what he is talking about.

My suggestion to everyone here is to ignore these people and keep preparing. Also, get silver, gold, palladium and platinum. Gold and platinum are the best as you can carry your whole fortune with you. But some silver will be nice for small change exchanges. People... our money will be nearly worthless in 18 to 36 months (that is unless they stop all spending and increase taxes by around 25% to start paying down all of our debt). However, stopping spending and increasing taxes is political suicide or so they claim... so the doomsday prediction for this economy is on track to come 100% true. What do you think people will do when an apple costs $100 dollars? Government will instate price controls and the whole problem will spiral out of control.

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There has never been an economic collapse in which gold or silver became the medium of exchange. Think about it. If the whole of modern civilization came crashing down, would you take a chunk of a gold bar in exchange for something useful? Of course not.

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There has never been an economic collapse in which gold or silver became the medium of exchange. Think about it. If the whole of modern civilization came crashing down, would you take a chunk of a gold bar in exchange for something useful? Of course not.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2009/feb/11/zimbabwe-gold-panning-starvation-food

MDC activist Sam Chakaipa returns to his village in rural Zimbabwe to find his friends and neighbours starving to death, reduced to panning gold powder from the rivers to exchange for food at an exorbitant rate

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