PLEASE STOP!

Doug Huffman · Aug 14, 2009

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Just like 'subscribing ' to the NRA for the wrong reasons beyond what the NRA performs. The NRA claims 4M 'members' (swinging) and the LP will claim you as subscribing to this libertarian 'thing' whether you do or not.

You empower these "pro-gun" democraps to give the 2A lip service and sell your country off to China.

PiJiNWiNg · Aug 14, 2009

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Who's running? Excuse me for being a busy person, ha.

But In response to a separate post, Im not begging anyone for anything, just trying to inform certain ignoramuses that Liberals and "gun grabbers" are not the same.
The title "Please Stop" is simply short for "Please Stop Making Yourself Look Like A Retard Because You Don't Know The Difference".
Aside from the fact that I tend to agree with some of the below statements that political parties shouldn't define what principles you should have politically. It just so happens that many of my views happen to coincide with many of the thoughts of the left wing. I only call myself a "liberal" to save the breath of explaining every single one of my beliefs.

r6-rider · Aug 14, 2009

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your trying to ask people not to stereotype a certain political group. asking not to stereotype is impossible enough, but to ask the pro-gun community to not judge libs on being anti-gun isnt realistic. most libs hate guns so they get classified, its just human nature to judge and classify people in groups for the majority because we dont know every person in the world. and anyone who says they dont judge people is a complete liar

chiefjason · Aug 14, 2009

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PiJiNWiNg wrote:

But In response to a separate post, Im not begging anyone for anything, just trying to inform certain ignoramuses that Liberals and "gun grabbers" are not the same.

So does this pertain to just you or are you trying to tell us that in general liberals are not gun grabbers? Who are the gun grabbers then? I'll ask you a similar question to one I asked on another board. How do you justify your belief in the RTKBA and voting for folks who generally do not hold that same belief?

I'm pro life, I don't vote pro choice.
I'm pro gun, I don't vote anti gun.
I believe criminals should be held accountable, I don't vote for people who are soft on crime.

I can respect their views and disagree completely with them. And I am not compelled to vote for folks who don't hold similar values to mine.

PiJiNWiNg · Aug 14, 2009

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chiefjason wrote:

PiJiNWiNg wrote:

But In response to a separate post, Im not begging anyone for anything, just trying to inform certain ignoramuses that Liberals and "gun grabbers" are not the same.

Click to expand...

So does this pertain to just you or are you trying to tell us that in general liberals are not gun grabbers? Who are the gun grabbers then? I'll ask you a similar question to one I asked on another board. How do you justify your belief in the RTKBA and voting for folks who generally do not hold that same belief?

I'm pro life, I don't vote pro choice.
I'm pro gun, I don't vote anti gun.
I believe criminals should be held accountable, I don't vote for people who are soft on crime.

I can respect their views and disagree completely with them. And I am not compelled to vote for folks who don't hold similar values to mine.

Because I find it virtually impossible to find a candidate that is going to match 100% with your views. In a case like this there is no other choice besides either A) Picking the best match or B) Not voting at all (which I REFUSE to do)

sudden valley gunner · Aug 14, 2009

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PiJiNWiNg wrote:

Because I find it virtually impossible to find a candidate that is going to match 100% with your views. In a case like this there is no other choice besides either A) Picking the best match or B) Not voting at all (which I REFUSE to do)

...precisely why I don't vote for either side.. Ron Paul almost changed my mind.

smoking357 · Aug 14, 2009

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chiefjason wrote:

I believe criminals should be held accountable, I don't vote for people who are soft on crime.

The problem is that it is criminal to make crimes out of most acts and the laws, themselves, are criminal, as are the people who support unjust laws.

chiefjason · Aug 15, 2009

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Because I find it virtually impossible to find a candidate that is going to match 100% with your views. In a case like this there is no other choice besides either A) Picking the best match or B) Not voting at all (which I REFUSE to do)

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I can understand the 100%, I don't expect to find anyone who votes 100% like I would want. But there are deal breaker issues for me. Gun control is one. If gun control is not a deal breaker for you, then you may not be a gun grabbing liberal yourself, but are you encouraging elected liberal officials to push gun control by supporting them? Again I'll ask. How do you justify your belief in the RTKBA and voting for folks who generally do not hold that same belief? Or is the RTKABA not such a big deal to you that it's not a deal breaker issue?

MSC 45ACP · Aug 15, 2009

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Some "liberals" can be reasoned with intelligently and can be receptive to the truth. Some can't be reasoned with at all. Seemingly intelligent people completely dedicated to the "liberal cause" can only be described as completely bnrainwashed.

What other explaination is there? How could a normal, reasonable individual rationalize killing unborn or newly born innocent children and be against the death penalty at the same time?

How can they rationalize Socialism? Can't they see it has destroyed more countries in the world than any war? Communism is a failed experiement, but they keep trying because they think they can do it better than the last guy. They're BETTER and SMARTER than you and I. They know what's better for us.

Just ask "The smartest woman in the world", our esteemed Secretary of State.:banghead:

NoHadji · Aug 15, 2009

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No really a Liberal from the Northwest, I am completely shocked.:what:

As others have said, you are on the correct side with regards to the second amendment but by supporting the liberal agenda you are destroying our Republic.

Washintonian_For_Liberty · Aug 16, 2009

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Here is most people's problem with liberals:

Modern Liberals tend to advocate rules, ordinances, regulations and laws that restrict or outright take away Liberty.

Modern Liberals tend to advocate government control over many aspects of our lives.

Modern Liberals tend to advocate class warfare, racism, quotas, political correctness, hate crimes legislation and dividing people into groups.

Modern Liberals support groups like Latino Student Unions, Black Student Unions, Gay & Lesbian Student Unions while calling any attempt at forming a Caucasian Student Union racist.

Modern Liberals take no real position so as to avoid being called a hypocrite... except that they are the biggest hypocrites around.

Modern Liberals are really an offshoot of the Progressive movement which began in 1890 as one can easily see from all of their heroes whowere leaders of that movement.

The Gun Control Act of 1968 waslifted almostword for wordfrom the Nazi Weapons Law that was enacted on March 18, 1938 and presented in translated formto Congress by Progressives as a product of their own devise. How can we not be distrustful of Liberals when their leaders are emulating Nazis even going so far as to actually cut and paste Nazi legislation and adopt it here in the United States?

And you're surprised thatwe mistrust your side?

MSC 45ACP · Aug 16, 2009

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Washintonian_For_Liberty wrote:

Here is most people's problem with liberals:

Modern Liberals tend to advocate rules, ordinances, regulations and laws that restrict or outright take away Liberty.

Modern Liberals tend to advocate government control over many aspects of our lives.

Modern Liberals tend to advocate class warfare, racism, quotas, political correctness, hate crimes legislation and dividing people into groups.

Modern Liberals support groups like Latino Student Unions, Black Student Unions, Gay & Lesbian Student Unions while calling any attempt at forming a Caucasian Student Union racist.

Modern Liberals take no real position so as to avoid being called a hypocrite... except that they are the biggest hypocrites around.

Modern Liberals are really an offshoot of the Progressive movement which began in 1890 as one can easily see from all of their heroes whowere leaders of that movement.

The Gun Control Act of 1968 waslifted almostword for wordfrom the Nazi Weapons Law that was enacted on March 18, 1938 and presented in translated formto Congress by Progressives as a product of their own devise. How can we not be distrustful of Liberals when their leaders are emulating Nazis even going so far as to actually cut and paste Nazi legislation and adopt it here in the United States?

And you're surprised thatwe mistrust your side?

...And the most amusingly ironic part is when the liberals call everyone that is against their healthcare plan NAZIS!

:cuss:

Citizen · Aug 16, 2009

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MSC 45ACP wrote:

SNIP ...And the most amusingly ironic part is when the liberals call everyone that is against their healthcare plan NAZIS!

Well, then,lets accommodate them. Start buying up Mausers.

MSC 45ACP · Aug 16, 2009

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I would LOVE to! HISTORY magazine has a GREAT offer for a Mauser and a bunch of accessories.

Citizen · Aug 16, 2009

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MSC 45ACP wrote:

I would LOVE to! HISTORY magazine has a GREAT offer for a Mauser and a bunch of accessories.

'zactly what I had in mind. I see the ad from time to time.

MSC 45ACP · Aug 16, 2009

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GMTA

Now what was the OP???:uhoh:

Milbars · Aug 17, 2009

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Nutczak wrote:

Maybe someone can help toclassify me into one of the neat little catchphrases or groups or tell me what political party I belong in

I believe the constitution should be tightly adhered to, I fully back the first 10 amendments and the others that follow and will defend our constitution to the death.
(I have always wanted to become an attorney that practices constitutional law)

I am pro-choice, (not to be confused with pro-abortion) We need less government, not more & more programs where the government supports the citizens.
Religion? I have some seriousissues with organized religion, I tend to have my own beliefs and will make my own decisions

People should make their own decisions and go forward in their ownway, Government assistance should be exactly that, "Assistance" not dependence on the government. (multigenerational familieswhere any single member hasnever worked a day in their lives pisses me off to no end) Damn-it, I am 85% disabled according to the doctors, but I have never asked for or received any assistance from anyone. I feelI am able to work, so I do work! and hard!

What political party would I best fit into?
I am not a conservative due to my views on abortion and religion, I am not a democrat because I feel the government is already too large and into far too many peoples lives.

Where do I fit??

Sounds like you've got two people for a new party! I'm with you brother

Milbars · Aug 17, 2009

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sudden valley gunner wrote:

I have to agree with above post, I just dont think "parties" should be in control.

IIRC, it was Washington on his way out of office who warned us against a party system. To say he was a visionary does not do him justice.

*EDIT* Found the quote:

"The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge natural to party dissention, which in different ages & countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders & miseries, which result, gradually incline the minds of men to seek security & repose in the absolute power of an Individual: and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of Public Liberty." — George Washington, September 19, 1796

Doug Huffman · Aug 17, 2009

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_Nothings

AWDstylez · Aug 17, 2009

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PiJiNWiNg wrote:

Can everybody please stop associating "libs" with "antis"? I am quite honestly one of the most liberal people you could ever meet, EXCEPT for gun control laws.
And I'm not trying to turn this into a political conversation, I am just trying to make the distinction between a liberal and an "anti gun rights" person.

-SBJ

This is a lost cause. These people only see the world in black/white.

PLEASE STOP!

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