Gun toting Preachers

Blackrobed rev. · Aug 18, 2009

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I am outside the city jurisdiction and have talked to the Sheriff. I have several members who carry and we spend time teaching those who want to become familiar with guns and gun safety. I believe we will see some difficult days ahead that will escalate the need for personal protection as mandated by the 2nd. Thanks again for sharing info.

JT · Aug 18, 2009

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Blackrobed rev. wrote:

Yes, sad but true. Most pastors believe the Scriptures teach passivism, which could not be further from the Truth. We have a moral obligation to defend our families, and extended families, the weak and innocent and the land as well, against any and all enemies. I appreciate the candor and openness of this forum.

The deliberatemisunderstanding of the "turn the other cheek" command has given rise to a society that thinks there is something morally wrong with self defense or taking up arms in the defense of others. That attitude, combined with the fact thatpastors are supposed to be examples of godly behavior is a large contributor to people being shocked to seeing a preacher with a gun. With all the uproar in the media over people openly carrying arms near the townhall meetings, can you imagine the uproar that will be generated if one of them turns out to be a pastor?

Blackrobed rev. · Aug 19, 2009

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I'm sure it will be used to blacklist us even further. It is my opinion that as leaders we should not be so concerned about what the public thinks as with the Truth. The media bias has usurped control over what most people think today. Glad to know there are those who will not forget the Constitutional liberties that are themselves an underscoring of Biblical rights belonging to all free men. I guess that is the distinction - whether we consider ourselves free men or owned by the government.

mark edward marchiafava · Aug 19, 2009

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I need to introduce you to quite a few preachers.
It's their doctrine we should always submit, regardless of the consequences.
A nation of glorified slaves is what we've become, the religious community leading the way.

Blackrobed rev. · Aug 20, 2009

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It would by my pleasure. I broadcast the same opinions via the internet and a weekly radio program. It is my judgment that the blame for the ills of this nation rests squarely upon the shoulders of the church. We have embraced a doctrine of pacifity and a don't get involved attitude, until now we are facing the greatest threat to this country ever - bar none, and that includes both world wars and the civil war, and these pastors are trusting the very ones who are advancing this socialist agenda to bail us out?Prayerfully, the "silent majority" will awaken before it's too late.

mark edward marchiafava · Aug 20, 2009

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May I suggest you contact WPAE/KPAE radio stations.
Maybe you can convince them to broadcast a taped message.

Blackrobed rev. · Aug 20, 2009

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I will look into it and see what might happen. I will not have time this wk. I have several appointments and I am preparing for this Sabbath. David

rj3663 · Aug 20, 2009

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We are a small motor cycle club that is Christian based. We are not a ministry club but provide that if requested. We all carry. I know of two national Christian clubs that do minister and a huge number of them carry also. I will turn the other cheek as long as you aren't about to shoot me in the cheek. If so, i will pray for you to go to Heaven....right away. I'm a Christian, not a rug!

Adding to that, my church regularly hosts retreats where the guys all bring their favorite guns and have a great time on the range. The senior pastor practicaly drooled when he saw my twin stainless steel ruger mini 14's and my tech 9 with the 32 round clip.

mark edward marchiafava · Aug 20, 2009

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The wife and I attend local CMA events from time to time.
No one has ever said a word about my open carry.

rj3663 · Aug 20, 2009

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mark edward marchiafava wrote:

The wife and I attend local CMA events from time to time.
No one has ever said a word about my open carry.

That's one of em'.

MedicineMan · Mar 1, 2010

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i think this is another one of those "jim crow" laws.

It guaranteed that noone would be armed in certain Churches.

I carry every time I go to Church.
With the hatred of Christians today, things could be bad at any moment. And it won't be me who says "if I had only..."

This is one of those "personal choices" we all have to deal with.
Do I obey the law and endanger myself and others, or do I follow my beliefs and do what is right even though it is "illegal"???

If it's any help to you, the FOUNDERS made it clear that "bad laws" were not valid laws, and it is our DUTY to not follow them.
But don't count on them showing up in court for you. LOL

DCKilla · Oct 22, 2010

I know this is an old thread, but one that needs light again.

This is one part of 45-9-101 that hits home for me. I'm not sure if I should follow or disregard the law. Right now, I enter our church building with a loaded magazine in each pocket and no pistol to go with them. I believe this part of the statute is tredding all over the 1st amendent. I guess this makes me a conscientious objector.

JT · Oct 22, 2010

Yep this is definitely an infringement and we need to make some noise about it. The law that took the public parks prohibition out of 45-9-101 orginally removed the prohibition on churches but the final version of the bill kept the prohibition on carry in churches. We just need to make sure our state reps and senators know that we want this changed. As far as actually carrying in church... ya never know what folks might have under a coat and tie.

DCKilla · Oct 22, 2010

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To my state senator and representative,

Greetings, I would like to point out to you and anyone in the Mississippi State Legislature who will listen. In MS Code 45-9-101, paragraph 13, states that it's unlawful to carry a pistol or revolver in "any church or place of worship." Not only is this part of the statute infringing on our 1st amendment rights, but also the property rights of the church. I would like to see a bill to remove this part of the statute to align itself with the Constitution of the United States.

Respectfully,
ME
Pearl, MS

Daylen · Oct 22, 2010

regulating firearms in a church sounds like passing a law with respect to religion. That would be a nono for federal legislature. Anyone know if MS has a similar law for keeping politicians hands off religion?

DCKilla · Oct 22, 2010

Constitution of the state of Mississippi, Article 3, Section 18. Freedom of religion.

No religious test as a qualification for office shall be required; and no preference shall be given by law to any religious sect or mode of worship; but the free enjoyment of all religious sentiments and the different modes of worship shall be held sacred. The rights hereby secured shall not be construed to justify acts of licentiousness injurious to morals or dangerous to the peace and safety of the state, or to exclude the Holy Bible from use in any public school of this state.

Daylen · Oct 22, 2010

Well the law seems to be constitutional, but shitty none the less.

DCKilla · Oct 22, 2010

If the progressives want to use statements like "serperation of church and state," so shall I. I will not allow a state to dictate what a church can and cannot have on their property. The 1st amendment was to keep the government out of the church.

mark-in-texas · Oct 22, 2010

Once had a preacher who carried. He said it was because he was the only one looking the right direction to see if something bad was about to happen!

dukenukum · Oct 23, 2010

As a preacher I support carry in church, I know many who would disagree with that but I don't like the idea of government dictating to churches of any faith.

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