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    I'm intending on attending Rick Boucher's townhall meeting while OCing. I do not know of any law restricting me from doing so for a representative, the President yes, but a representative no. The townhall meeting will be at a community college, which I'm sure bans guns, although I am not a student.

    I am looking for comments about this. All are welcome, informed are embraced....

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    They may ask you to leave the school grounds. Not saying it is legitimate, but they might ask.

    Kostic up in NH got told to leave school grounds, even though he was within his rights to be there, apparently the cops took the position that the school could ask anyone to leave that they wanted to, and were going to enforce it.

    That might be BS but they were also pretty firm about it. So you will have to decide if you want to be arrested at that point, BS or not, if it comes to that. Whether or not it is illegal , at that point, doesn't get you out of the back of the cop car.

    I have no idea how it is going to play out.

    Fresh batteries for your voice recorder. IF possible have a friend or 3 with video cameras.

    And I know you know, but don't let them bait you. They may have thugs purposely get in your face. Don't take the bait.

    Keep your eyes open and your chin up, and smile.

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    Skeptic wrote:
    They may ask you to leave the school grounds. Not saying it is legitimate, but they might ask.

    Kostic up in NH got told to leave school grounds, even though he was within his rights to be there, apparently the cops took the position that the school could ask anyone to leave that they wanted to, and were going to enforce it.

    That might be BS but they were also pretty firm about it. So you will have to decide if you want to be arrested at that point, BS or not, if it comes to that. Whether or not it is illegal , at that point, doesn't get you out of the back of the cop car.

    I have no idea how it is going to play out.

    Fresh batteries for your voice recorder. IF possible have a friend or 3 with video cameras.

    And I know you know, but don't let them bait you. They may have thugs purposely get in your face. Don't take the bait.

    Keep your eyes open and your chin up, and smile.
    If you act professional I bet you are barely noticed and this is a non event. I go to townhalls, board meetings, etc. all the time and nobody says a word.
    Carry On.

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    Neplusultra wrote:
    I'm intending on attending Rick Boucher's townhall meeting while OCing. I do not know of any law restricting me from doing so for a representative, the President yes, but a representative no.
    I am aware of no law that restricts you from carrying near the president.

    However the secret service arbitrarily suspends all state and local laws, the US constitution, and the operation of civilization itself for miles in every direction wherever the president happens to be present.

    A century ago, heads of state and legislators had almost no security. I guess nowadays they have more reason to fear their own people.

    If you are going to carry at the Boucher town hall more power to you. (If I'm not mistaken he's anti.) If politicians don't like free citizens carrying arms in their holy presence they should stay in the District of Criminals where they belong.

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    Thanks Ed and all. Just a bit nervous I suppose. I've never been to a political meeting where the cops are very likely to take exception. Supposedly I was the first to OC at the Tech campus, not sure if that's true :^). But that is different than this. I'm also under a bogus felony indictment which my bail requires I "keep the peace". So I'm extra nervous about that.

    So I assume there is no law against being in the presence of a US representative while carrying, unlike the president (which some seem to say is just a SS policy). And as I myself understand there is no law against carrying on a community college campus even if there are administrative rules against doing so. As Mr. PVC and others demonstrated at Tech during one talk I attended.

    But. One more question I do have. If some cop does decide to make trouble for me what are the requirements for his immunity to be pierced (cites)??? I want to speak authoritatively about this is if the need arises....

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    Neplusultra wrote:

    So I assume there is no law against being in the presence of a US representative while carrying, unlike the president (which some seem to say is just a SS policy). And as I myself understand there is no law against carrying on a community college campus even if there are administrative rules against doing so. As Mr. PVC and others demonstrated at Tech during one talk I attended.
    For that matter, IIRC, only GMU and VCU have any gun bans in the administrative code, Tech does not. Their "gun ban" is simply a conditional policy they force upon their students faculty and staff, I don't believe they can legally enforce it against the general public who are not affiliated with the university. For that matter, GMU can simply tell you to leave, with tresspassing charge resulting if you refuse to comply. I've seen a few members from this board OC at GMU a little over a year ago with not a single problem but its not done enough to know how GMU PD would respond.

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    Here is another discussion about Community Colleges.

    http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/view_to...highlight=svcc

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