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    Dang - you guys in Michigan Open carry are doing great; i guess we'll let you keep your thread stickies for a while longer

    http://www.macombdaily.com/articles/...0006114137.txt


    Law backs right of gun group to hold picnic
    Published: Friday, August 14, 2009

    By Frank DeFrank, Macomb Daily Staff Writer

    A Macomb Township ordinance that bans firearms in public parks caused a bit of a stir Thursday and briefly threatened a public picnic planned by a gun-rights group.

    But after consultations among a representative of Michigan Open Carry, township lawyers and officials and Macomb County Sheriff Mark Hackel, the picnic at Macomb Corners Park will proceed as planned Saturday.

    "They're good to go," said Mark Grabow, Macomb Township supervisor.

    The controversy centered on the township ordinance and a state law. Township officials initially cited their ordinance as the prevailing law, which likely would have resulted either in cancellation of the picnic or the specter of deputy sheriffs writing tickets to all who attended.

    But John Roshek, Southeast Regional Coordinator of Michigan Open Carry, brought to the attention of local officials a Michigan law that pre-empts local governments from imposing restrictions on firearm possession. The law is based on a 2003 case involving the city of Ferndale decided by the Michigan Court of Appeals.

    After a flurry of telephone calls and discussions among the principals, Macomb County Sheriff Mark Hackel delivered the final verdict late Thursday afternoon.

    "They (Michigan Open Carry) are right," the sheriff said. "The group … can carry

    their guns."

    Roshek was confident the state law would prevail, but he said he was pleased the confusion could be resolved in a civil manner.

    "We're a non-confrontational group," Roshek said. "We're not out to cause any problems."

    Roshek also said the uncertainty of public officials underscores the reason his group holds events like the picnic: to educate the public about Michigan gun laws.

    "This is a perfect example," he said.

    Grabow said township officials will revisit the ordinance and make any changes necessary to comply with the law.

    "We'll rectify it so we're in compliance with the court of appeals ruling," Grabow said.

    Michigan Open Carry will begin its picnic at noon.

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    You guys at MI OC should put this quote on your web site - see hoe VCDL.org puts newspaper quotes on their web site.

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    Our SE Coordinator John Roshek is doing a bang up job. Well done John.


    Cheers,

    Brian Jeffs, President
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    An Amazon best seller "MY PARENTS OPEN CARRY" http://www.myparentsopencarry.com/

    *The information contained above is not meant to be legal advice, but is solely intended as a starting point for further research. These are my opinions, if you have further questions it is advisable to seek out an attorney that is well versed in firearm law.

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    Thanks, all of our members have done such an awesome job this summer with events and really helping MOC gain a lot of momentum this summer. Lets keep it up everyone!

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    WAY TO GO GUYS!!!

    Damn I miss y'all.

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    Well done indeed, MI OC. And well done also, Macomb County Sheriff Mark Hackel. A far cry from that other sheriff who chose to ignore the law on open carry.



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    "They (Michigan Open Carry) are right," the sheriff said.
    Odd typography here. Did the sheriff perhaps mutter, "Michigan Open Carry", sotto voice, or was the phrase added by editorial license as explanation? The latter case should be noted with square-brackets - [ ] - rather than parentheses.

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    Doug Huffman wrote:
    http://www.macombdaily.com/articles/...0006114137.txt

    "They (Michigan Open Carry) are right," the sheriff said.
    Odd typography here. Did the sheriff perhaps mutter, "Michigan Open Carry", sotto voice, or was the phrase added by editorial license as explanation? The latter case should be noted with square-brackets - [] - rather than parentheses.
    The adjective is sotto voce[sä-tō-ˈ[/i]vō-chē] not sotto voice.



    Congratulations on the Michigan victory!!!

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    DocV wrote:
    The adverbis sotto voce[sä-tō-ˈvō-chē] not sotto voice.
    Thank you. I don't speak or write Italian.

    I believe voce translates nicely as voice. Some here will suggest that I don't even write American.

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    Generaldet wrote:
    Thanks, all of our members have done such an awesome job this summer with events and really helping MOC gain a lot of momentum this summer. Lets keep it up everyone!
    A number of us have been busy... http://www.migunowners.org/forum/sho...municipalities

    Please keep us updated there as well...

    Carry on

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    Wow, it's great to see a civil authority willing to take a stance, and take action(s) to right a wrong, even up against the "left-leaners". Even called them that! Just plain Wow!

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    THUMBS UP !!!all around.

    :celebrate

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    This is unreal! We should make a reference in our presentation to the Warren City Council! This is great stuff guys!!!

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    Hey! What if we all sent the abovelinktoour police chiefs followed by the link below?



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