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    Why do you open carry? In my business (photographer of liberal trained high school seniors) I can't most of the time during the day except quick runs to the gas stations or store....

    What's your best answer 140 characters or less. (then perhaps a longer explanation)

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    The main is deterrence. I do not carry because I want to have the element of surprise, I carry because I never want to have to use my firearm or even draw it.

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    cause are forefathers and all the other people who gave up their lives to defend that right.

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    self defense. acclimatization. desensitization.
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    It's easier for people to vote against those they don't think are part of their community.
    "If we were to ever consider citizenship as the least bit matter of merit instead of birthright, imagine who should be selected as deserved representation of our democracy: someone who would risk their daily livelihood to cast an individually statistically insignificant vote, or those who wrap themselves in the flag against slightest slights." - agenthex

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    Because I can.

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    Our rights are being whittled away slowly but surely. I feel it is my duty to OC because it gives me a chance to educate the public and show others that it is possible to stand up for our rights. I also like to know that I have the ability to keep others safe.

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    BECAUSE IT PISSES LIBERALS OFF!

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    2ndAmendmentDefender wrote:
    BECAUSE IT PISSES LIBERALS OFF!
    I thought your statement funny, but on a serious note, I do believe carrying firearm openly can be a 1st amendment right. But lets not do it to piss people off, although we know certain elements of our society will be 'pissed off'. Antagonism isn't a goal I have while open carrying. Healthy debates is good, and I have had some with those who disagree, but because I wasn't trying to piss them off I was able to educate them on the fact that this was a right ( they didn't realize it was legal) and leave a favorable impression, even if they still didn't agree, they weren't afraid of me at the end.

    I also have had 2 negative encounters, one where it was prudent just to ignore the guy who was not going to be polite and talk about it. The other is with the Bellingham Police department, that I am attempting to resolve.

    We have to remember liberal's and conservatives have the right to their view point. Although I feel often they don't dish out the same amount of respect they demand, we shouldn't stoop to their level. Don't compromise, don't let it stop you from open carrying but lets not be antagonistic about it.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
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    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    Girlfriend? Are we giving this response to placate you woman, or for you or what?

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    sudden valley gunner wrote:
    2ndAmendmentDefender wrote:
    BECAUSE IT PISSES LIBERALS OFF!
    I thought your statement funny, but on a serious note, I do believe carrying firearm openly can be a 1st amendment right. But lets not do it to piss people off, although we know certain elements of our society will be 'pissed off'. Antagonism isn't a goal I have while open carrying. Healthy debates is good, and I have had some with those who disagree, but because I wasn't trying to piss them off I was able to educate them on the fact that this was a right ( they didn't realize it was legal) and leave a favorable impression, even if they still didn't agree, they weren't afraid of me at the end.

    I also have had 2 negative encounters, one where it was prudent just to ignore the guy who was not going to be polite and talk about it. The other is with the Bellingham Police department, that I am attempting to resolve.

    We have to remember liberal's and conservatives have the right to their view point. Although I feel often they don't dish out the same amount of respect they demand, we shouldn't stoop to their level. Don't compromise, don't let it stop you from open carrying but lets not be antagonistic about it.

    No, I do it to piss ignorant, arrogant liberals off! Why? Because I am sick & tired of these limp wristed Lib's dictating to me how I need to be. Or how my actions make them uncomfortable. SCREW THEM!Their actions make me uncomfortable, except I don't go and lobby for laws to restricttheir actions.

    I personally haveissues withthe fact that I have to have a "Permit" to carry a firearm concealed. I say the 2nd Amendment IS my CPL and my CCW and my CWP! With out the 2nd amendment, we cannot defend the rest of our rights! Prior to 1938 the sight of an armed American was normal, expected & to be honest required. But, thanks to J. Edgar Hoover &the Unconstitutional passing of the Interstate Commerce Act & the passing of the Federal Firearms Act of 1934, we have to havepermits & worry about offending others while we exercise our personal rights given to us by God.

    Allow me to tell you a story of my experiences while I was stationed in California. While walking my dog in a section of Oakland close to the Naval base that I was stationed at, I came across 3 males sexually assaulting a female at gun point. With out a word, I drew my weapon, fired and killed the man holding the the gun on the woman, and then held the other two men at bay while waiting for the police to arrive. During the course of the police investigating the scene, this woman's friend/lover what have you arrived and began to become verbally abusive to just about everyone there, including me, the person who just saved her friends life. Before she finished, this lady had the audacity to demand that I be arrested because I was carrying a firearm. It turns out the 2 women were lobbists for
    Senator Lautenberg and helped write the Lautenburg Amendment. No thanks, no glad you came along when you did, just "Office I demand that this man be arrested because he shot and killed an armed assailent"!

    So, yes, I open carry to piss liberals off, and to excercise my 1st & 2nd amendment

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    Wheelgunner wrote:
    Girlfriend? Are we giving this response to placate you woman, or for you or what?
    Now the truth comes out. :shock:

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    2ndAmendmentDefender wrote:
    sudden valley gunner wrote:
    2ndAmendmentDefender wrote:
    BECAUSE IT PISSES LIBERALS OFF!
    I thought your statement funny, but on a serious note, I do believe carrying firearm openly can be a 1st amendment right. But lets not do it to piss people off, although we know certain elements of our society will be 'pissed off'. Antagonism isn't a goal I have while open carrying. Healthy debates is good, and I have had some with those who disagree, but because I wasn't trying to piss them off I was able to educate them on the fact that this was a right ( they didn't realize it was legal) and leave a favorable impression, even if they still didn't agree, they weren't afraid of me at the end.

    I also have had 2 negative encounters, one where it was prudent just to ignore the guy who was not going to be polite and talk about it. The other is with the Bellingham Police department, that I am attempting to resolve.

    We have to remember liberal's and conservatives have the right to their view point. Although I feel often they don't dish out the same amount of respect they demand, we shouldn't stoop to their level. Don't compromise, don't let it stop you from open carrying but lets not be antagonistic about it.

    No, I do it to piss ignorant, arrogant liberals off! Why? Because I am sick & tired of these limp wristed Lib's dictating to me how I need to be. Or how my actions make them uncomfortable. SCREW THEM!Their actions make me uncomfortable, except I don't go and lobby for laws to restricttheir actions.

    I personally haveissues withthe fact that I have to have a "Permit" to carry a firearm concealed. I say the 2nd Amendment IS my CPL and my CCW and my CWP! With out the 2nd amendment, we cannot defend the rest of our rights! Prior to 1938 the sight of an armed American was normal, expected & to be honest required. But, thanks to J. Edgar Hoover &the Unconstitutional passing of the Interstate Commerce Act & the passing of the Federal Firearms Act of 1934, we have to havepermits & worry about offending others while we exercise our personal rights given to us by God.

    Allow me to tell you a story of my experiences while I was stationed in California. While walking my dog in a section of Oakland close to the Naval base that I was stationed at, I came across 3 males sexually assaulting a female at gun point. With out a word, I drew my weapon, fired and killed the man holding the the gun on the woman, and then held the other two men at bay while waiting for the police to arrive. During the course of the police investigating the scene, this woman's friend/lover what have you arrived and began to become verbally abusive to just about everyone there, including me, the person who just saved her friends life. Before she finished, this lady had the audacity to demand that I be arrested because I was carrying a firearm. It turns out the 2 women were lobbists for
    Senator Lautenberg and helped write the Lautenburg Amendment. No thanks, no glad you came along when you did, just "Office I demand that this man be arrested because he shot and killed an armed assailent"!

    So, yes, I open carry to piss liberals off, and to excercise my 1st & 2nd amendment
    I never meant no personal attack on you, just stating my position on open carry.

    What year and in What town did this happen. What was the outcome you left us hanging. Where you arrested, Prosecuted, fined, What?
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    Then he woke up and realized it was just a dream.....

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    This happened in May of 1995 while I was stationed at NAS Alameda, CA. I had to surrender my weapon during the investigation, I was not arrested, or charged. I did however have to hire an attorney because the family of the man I killed filed suit against me for wrongfull death. After all was said and done, The jury ruled in my favor. It took almost 6 months to get my weapon back from the police department.

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    Because I don't think I should be forced to try and hide my firearm under the proper clothing. I am more comfortable not trying to tuck it in or behind something. And I am not buying a smaller firearm just so sheeple can be happy with it not being seen.

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    2ndAmendmentDefender wrote:
    This happened in May of 1995 while I was stationed at NAS Alameda, CA. I had to surrender my weapon during the investigation, I was not arrested, or charged. I did however have to hire an attorney because the family of the man I killed filed suit against me for wrongfull death. After all was said and done, The jury ruled in my favor. It took almost 6 months to get my weapon back from the police department.
    Newspaper clippings please. Not that I want to doubt you... quite the contrary, I would love to support you... but I cannot if I think that a story is made up.

    You can scan the clippings and then blank out your name...
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