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    As per our members experience and subsequent communications with executives at Marcus Corporation please be aware that Marcus Corporation doesn't support your right to carry. Oh wait... they support your right to carry. Just as long as its not on "their" property. Hypocrisy at its finest.

    As such please be avoid patronizing Marcus Corporation establishments in the future:

    A list of hotel/resort properties can be found here:

    http://www.marcusresorts.com/hotel_p..._portfolio.asp

    A list of Marcus owned theatres is here:

    http://www.marcustheatres.com/index_.../locations.cfm

    As we have many choices in movie theatres and resert/hotel options it should be very easy to avoid patronizing a business that does not support your rights as law-abiding citizens.

    Carry on (just not at Marcus properties)

    While you are at it feel free to email the president of Marcus Theatres and executive at Marcus Corporation to let them know about the business they will be losing:

    bruceolson@marcustheatres.com

    tomkissinger@marcuscorp.com


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    I'm thinking as a courtesy to Marcus Corporation we should also pass this information along to other forums.

    glocktalk

    ar-15.com

    I forget my login for those. Can someone please post to those forums and include a link here.

    Any other forums we should post this too? Please list:



    As a courtesy I have emailed a link to this thread to the executives at Marcus corporation.

    I note that Marcus corporation is in several states, I will post this in the respective state-specific forums there also.




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    I'll post it on GT and AR15, however, I think we should add something to have them contact Marcus and let them know they aren't going to patronize there business because of this. I would still like to patronize their business, I'd rather have them change their policies!

    a list of email address of the executives would help...

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    Great point. Added the email addresses to the above post so it can be cut and pasted.

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    Here are a list of Top Executives I've found...

    Stephen Marcus, Chairman
    Douglas Neis, CFO and Treasurer
    H. Fred Delmenhorst, VP- HR
    Bruce Olson, Group VP - bruceolson@marcustheatres.com
    Thomas Kissinger, Gen. Counsel and Sec. - tomkissinger@marcuscorp.com


    based on the 2 confirmed email addresses we have we could assume the same format and send them to both the marcustheatres.com and marcuscorp.com addresses and see what happens...

    (UPDATED) meaning these addresses until we confirm...
    douglasneis@marcustheatres.com (only address that didn't come back as recipient failed)



    and of course these two...
    bruceolson@marcustheatres.com
    tomkissinger@marcuscorp.com




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    I also posted this alert to every state that has a Marcus hotel/resort property in addition to the states that have Marcus Theatres:

    Illinois
    Iowa
    California
    Arizona
    Texas
    Missouri
    North Dakota
    Nebraska
    Oklahoma
    Ohio
    Minnesota

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    I sent emails to all of those address above, we'll see if I get any responses back (or fail to deliver messages)...

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    Mugenlude wrote:
    I sent emails to all of those address above, we'll see if I get any responses back (or fail to deliver messages)...
    douglasneis@marcustheatres.com is the only address that did not come back as recipient failed.... I updated my post above, it would be nice to find the email address of the other executives, if you can do so please let us know.

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    Here is an email address I found for Stephen Marcus.... stevemarcus@marcuscorp.com

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    Looks to me like I will be watching a lot more DVDs now. Safe at home, oh well...

    I am also sending out e-mails.

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    Well to those of in the Milwaukee area the theater in the Mayfair mall is owned by AMC not Marcus. Looks like I'll be seeing Inglorious Bastards and District 9 there. Of course we just might run into the same issues there...

    /sigh
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    Just a note, if you're in Madison, your movie theater choices are screwed. The only non-Marcus theater that I'm aware of is Sundance Cinema. Now, they're so far up their own asses that I'd assume they'd call the cops on an OCer, but it doesn't matter, because they serve beer and wine there, so it's illegal.

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    The misspelling is intentional, Inglourious Basterds

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    Doug Huffman wrote:
    The misspelling is intentional, Inglourious Basterds
    lol, I googled it before my post and it and it gave me the normal spelling. [shrug] still think it looks good.
    “The 1911 pistol remains the service pistol of choice in the eyes of those who understand the problem. Back when we audited the FBI academy in 1947, I was told that I ought not to use my pistol in their training program because it was not fair. Maybe the first thing one should demand of his sidearm is that it be unfair.” — Col. Jeff Cooper, GUNS & AMMO, January 2002

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    hugh jarmis wrote:
    As per our members experience and subsequent communications with executives at Marcus Corporation please be aware that Marcus Corporation doesn't support your right to carry. Oh wait... they support your right to carry. Just as long as its not on "their" property. Hypocrisy at its finest.
    What did Marcus Corp. do?

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    can you post what they said in their response?

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    HankT wrote:
    hugh jarmis wrote:
    As per our members experience and subsequent communications with executives at Marcus Corporation please be aware that Marcus Corporation doesn't support your right to carry. Oh wait... they support your right to carry. Just as long as its not on "their" property. Hypocrisy at its finest.
    What did Marcus Corp. do?
    I was asked to place my firearm in the car while waiting quietly for the movie to start.
    “The 1911 pistol remains the service pistol of choice in the eyes of those who understand the problem. Back when we audited the FBI academy in 1947, I was told that I ought not to use my pistol in their training program because it was not fair. Maybe the first thing one should demand of his sidearm is that it be unfair.” — Col. Jeff Cooper, GUNS & AMMO, January 2002

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    lowdog wrote:
    can you post what they said in their response?
    From: Bruce Olson (bruceolson@marcustheatres.com)
    Sent: Wed 8/19/09 7:40 AM
    Cc: Tom Kissinger (tomkissinger@marcuscorp.com)

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    In response to your concerns about not permitting our patrons to carry
    weapons into out theatres, please understand that The Marcus Corporation
    does not allow its customers to carry firearms onto its premises.  We
    believe this policy helps us to provide a safe environment for our
    guests. We have also been assured by counsel that our policy is
    consistent with all laws and does not violate the Wisconsin
    Constitution.
    
    Thank you for bringing this matter to our attention and I hope you
    better appreciate our position.
    “The 1911 pistol remains the service pistol of choice in the eyes of those who understand the problem. Back when we audited the FBI academy in 1947, I was told that I ought not to use my pistol in their training program because it was not fair. Maybe the first thing one should demand of his sidearm is that it be unfair.” — Col. Jeff Cooper, GUNS & AMMO, January 2002

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    GlockMeisterG21 wrote:
    HankT wrote:
    What did Marcus Corp. do?
    I was asked to place my firearm in the car while waiting quietly for the movie to start.
    OK. Thanks.



    GlockMeisterG21 wrote:
    From: Bruce Olson (bruceolson@marcustheatres.com)
    Sent: Wed 8/19/09 7:40 AM
    Cc: Tom Kissinger (tomkissinger@marcuscorp.com)

    Code:
    In response to your concerns about not permitting our patrons to carry
    weapons into out theatres, please understand that The Marcus Corporation
    does not allow its customers to carry firearms onto its premises. We
    believe this policy helps us to provide a safe environment for our
    guests. We have also been assured by counsel that our policy is
    consistent with all laws and does not violate the Wisconsin
    Constitution.
    
    Thank you for bringing this matter to our attention and I hope you
    better appreciate our position.
    Doesn't seem hypocritical, as HJ suggests. They just don't want OC (or CC) on there property is all.

    A national boycott call for this? Uh, OK. I'm down wit dat. I won't go to any Marcus theaters. Of course, they don't have any in my state. But if they open one up here...

    BTW, what are the policies regarding guns of the alternative resorts and theaters?

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    Last time I went to the movies I was OCing at Marcus Theater in La Crosse. Nobody really seemed to notice though, except the couple I sat behind because they got up and moved when we sat down.

    But for me, it's either go to Marcus Theaters, or some other really ****** theater with no drink holders, old hard seats, and horrible surround sound. Marcus gives military discount, so I get in for $6.50 at night...the other is like $9.

    I don't go to the theater often, but least Marcus supports the military.
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    logan wrote:
    I don't go to the theater often, but least Marcus supports the military.
    Well, that's a bigplus for Marcus, then. You might consider dropping a note to Bruce Olson to let him know that.

    They may not be as bad as HJ paints them...

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    HankT wrote:
    logan wrote:
    I don't go to the theater often, but least Marcus supports the military.
    Well, that's a bigplus for Marcus, then. You might consider dropping a note to Bruce Olson to let him know that.

    They may not be as bad as HJ paints them...
    Maybe I'll keeping carrying when I go and see if anything ever happens. But I love the response of...

    We believe this policy helps us to provide a safe environment for our guests.
    I need to e-mail and just make sure they know that prohibiting firearms only keeps the law abiding citizens from carrying them, where criminals will carry anywhere they want!

    Maybe I could thank them for the military discount and mention the firearm thing at the same time...so it's not a completely negative e-mail. Also let them know why I want to carry there. A movie theater seems like a great opportunity for a mass murderer, especially opening weekends of movies. Worse than even a mall, as people are packed closely together. So I'd like to sit there and enjoy my movie, feeling safe that if something crazy were to happen, I can protect those around me and those I love.

    I'll prob get around to that tomorrow...as I'm tired and I got nothing going on tomorrow!
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    Also keep in mind the time when you leave the theatre and head to your vehicle (a lot of time at night)... you are unarmed and are subject to be mugged/raped/etc....

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    HankT wrote

    They may not be as bad as HJ paints them...
    As long as they retain this policy, yes they are as bad as HJ paints them. They are limiting your rights! We have to make examples of these people so others don't follow in line. Send out those emails!!!!

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    Email sent to Mr. Neis, the CFO. This is the guy you want to write to as he is the guy held accountable for the profitability of the company.
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