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    I have been meaning to write about this for a while but havent got to it, this happened on thursday August 6.

    I have two accounts with U.S Bank and it was time to make a deposit in one of them up until that day I hadnt carried into a bank yet because i was too nervous but i was feeling good that day and decided to try it. So I walk into the bank and get in line at first it seems like if nobody is goin to notice im carrying. I start filling out a counter receipt for my deposit, when I hear a shrill voice ask me "You have a badge or something to show me son?" I turn around and a short chubby middle aged woman with U.S bank Name tag that says Assnt Manager is standing there behind me with her hands on her hips she asks me again "Son do you have a badge that lets you carry tha in her?" at this point I look around and all tha employees are standing from their desks and staring at me. Two men come and stand next to the Assnt Manager almost pinning me against the counter. I start explaining to the Manager how open carry is legal even inside a bank I try to show her a pamphlet but she did not want to see it her response was "Oh ill find out if you can do that or not in my bank ill be right back you just wait here" she storms oof in to her office and the two other employess stay to "keep an eye" on me. I decide im not going to waste my time so i push trough the employees to the counter where the clerk is and tell give him my deposit slip he takes it and completes my transaction as i am getting ready to leave the Assnt Manager comes back out and says "I talked to the regional manager so you cant carry that in here unles you a a police officer or armed security guard" I say ok and that I will be closing my accounts with them as soon as I get back from my honeymoon she says "Go ahead" I walk to my car and call the U.S corporate offices who in turn give me the regional managers number I call her an she tells me its against corporate policy to have ANY weapon in their banks becasue "It makes you look like if you are about to rob thea bank and will make other customers nervous". I tell her i will close my accounts she says "Im sorry you have to do that we respect your rigths but we cant allow you to have a weapon in our banks."

    Well so it looks like I need A new bank now, Any Suggestions?

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    BECU ?
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    You need to find out who the bank's security manager ( regional or higher) and ask them that question. Often times the "managers" will make an assumption of what they want the rules to be when there is no set policy in place or can be found.



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    should have asked her if you're the bank of america why are you taking away one of the rights us american's have.

    anyway I never like boa, they are snobs and theor cust service always sucked



    you can try wells fargo. never oc'd there but they are always friendly

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    I've OC'd at multiple Wells Fargo and Key Bank locations without incident.

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    Deros, Me and Bookman has OC many times at US Bank in Safeway at 216th and Pac Hwy. never had any problem.

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    I ended up closing my US Bank account about 3 years ago after being told the same thing at the Smokey Point branch. Corporate confirmed it through e-mails.

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    You might check out Chase. I've only OC'd in the Aberdeen branch once since it became Chase, but I OC'd and CC'd there many times when it was still WAMU. I don't know what official policy Chase has, but it might be nice to find out.

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    My US Bank branch doesn't have a problem with me OC'ing but that may be because they know me on site. However I had to use another branch last week and the girl at the counter wouldn't even serve me until I locked it up. I went to the drive thru (same girl) and did my transaction. The manager came over to inform me that that her head of security told her no weapons and she confirmed it with corporate as well. A few phone calls later I verified it as well. I was told we can use the drive thru with no problems......

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    No problems at Wells Fargo or B of A in Auburn.

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    Like M1 gunr I go into my US bank all the time with out any problems.I have also gone into the downtown branch with out an issue.

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    Anyone know anything about WSECU? I have to deposit a check but I think I'm going to just conceal it as I don't want to call them and ask permission, or deal with overzealous police and there the only credit union here in town.

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    I think I migth end up trying chase out

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    With any bank depending on the employees of that Branch you may have push back but I can tell you as an employee with certainty that Bank of America has a "follow whatever the state law is" rule regarding firearms.



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    brianstone1985 wrote:
    With any bank depending on the employees of that Branch you may have push back but I can tell you as an employee with certainty that Bank of America has a "follow whatever the state law is" rule regarding firearms.

    Cite please? Documents?

    I'm not accusing you of a false statement, I'm just having issues with a couple of branches down here in Vancouver, and I'd love to have something official to 'parry and thrust' with.



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    It will take me some searching ... should've saved it when I first went looking for it...

    I'll post it as soon as I can.

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    My daughter is branch manager at the Enumclaw Chase she wouldn't have an issue.Although I said she should work for another bank since they huge financial supporters of Obama an their CEO is an Obama advisor.

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    This discussion of what corporate policy might be is all well and good, but let's keep in mind that the employees at the branch can make any rules they want against guns anytime they want, and change them at will, corporate policy notwithstanding.

    They may not (or may) have the authority under their employer's rules of conduct to change the rules on the fly, but they certainly have the legal authority, and we have to respect it.

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    bobestes wrote:
    You might check out Chase. I've only OC'd in the Aberdeen branch once since it became Chase, but I OC'd and CC'd there many times when it was still WAMU. I don't know what official policy Chase has, but it might be nice to find out.
    I ended up calling chase corporate security because of "isssues" with my branch manager & talked with "danielle". She informed me that the have no written policy about firearms in their brancehes & that it is left up to the discretion of the branch manager. she also went on to say that for the most part, none of the managers thinks that she (even being corporate security) should even be allowed to carry in their branch.

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    In my opinion, telling a person to leave your business for carrying a firearm is nothing different than telling a person to leave because they have blond hair.

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    NavyLT wrote:
    deanf wrote:
    This discussion of what corporate policy might be is all well and good, but let's keep in mind that the employees at the branch can make any rules they want against guns anytime they want, and change them at will, corporate policy notwithstanding.
    Employees - no.* Managers - yes, depending on the authority that the corporation gives to them.* A teller cannot forbid your firearms carry and a teller cannot cause you to be charged with trespassing.* Only the person who controls that property can, which is the manager.
    I agree with you but the reality of it is that most corporations look at everyone of their employees as having control over the property. It is the manager that has the final decision but each employee is empowered to eject a person.
    "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."

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    So in other words unless the people in the bank are familiar with me and dont mind me carrying i wont be asked to leave?? that doesnt sound verry good...

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    A teller cannot forbid your firearms carry and a teller cannot cause you to be charged with trespassing.
    You've got to separate the private corporate policy (which is none of our business) from the trespass law.

    The police and the court will not be interested in the private corporate policy delegating certain authorities. Did an employee tell you to leave? Yes. Did you refuse? Yes. Result: trespass conviction. How else do you think it would play out in court?

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    NavyLT wrote:
    Let me ask you this: Is there a difference between a janitor cleaning a bank building and the teller in regards to their authority to remove you from the private property, if both are employees of the bank?
    It depends on the policy of the company. I have worked for more that allowed any employee to decide if a person should leave the premises than only wanted the manager to be the single person that had authority to remove someone. Now this is not saying that corporate could not reverse the decision and drop any trespass charges but the authority was vested in all employees.
    "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."

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    joeroket wrote:
    NavyLT wrote:
    Let me ask you this: Is there a difference between a janitor cleaning a bank building and the teller in regards to their authority to remove you from the private property, if both are employees of the bank?
    It depends on the policy of the company. I have worked for more that allowed any employee to decide if a person should leave the premises than only wanted the manager to be the single person that had authority to remove someone. Now this is not saying that corporate could not reverse the decision and drop any trespass charges but the authority was vested in all employees.
    Yep, with my company when I had several employees, I gave them the right to ask people to leave, and that was on my job sites, constructing houses.
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