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Travel Expert To Skip Ariz. After Gun Display

Citizen

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ixtow wrote:
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"The continued tolerance of people I hate carrying guns is a frightening development which strikes at the heart of making the political process always go my way and endangers the ability to carry out a one-sided propagandist screed," Frommer wrote.

The idiot. Guns are at the heart of the political process. That's why government has and keeps guns. Guns only in government hands is what endangers the ability to carry out a reasoned debate.
There, I fixed it to say what his position actually is.

:D
 

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Fetus wrote:
Sonora Rebel wrote:
75% No The 'extremists' are winning!
No, we are winning . read it again it says " do you think a travel boycott is necessary "

no is the right answer
I beg to differ. "Yes" is the right answer. I don't want him or his loser cult followers to be visiting my state. I feel his boycott will send an appropriate message to 2nd amendment supporters as well (who may now vacation here over other locations), and also sends the right message to scum bag criminals who might haveconsidered coming here to ply their trade.But due to a shortage of tourists to rob,and that residents are all supposedly armed, may now consider going elsewhere.
 

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The phrasing of the question is a deliberate hoax. You can't select any of the answers without supporting him.

"Does your father know you're gay?" Yes or No. Either way, you are saying you're Gay. It's presumptive.
 

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I'll send a link to the OC map. ;-)

Why isn't everyone else? I gave the link....

OK, sent. I was far less civilized about it this time. :p
 

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Crossfire Jedi wrote:
:banghead:Why in the world would you not feel safe if everyone around you was carrying a handgun? I don't understand the thinking at all.
Thinking? Who says these types can think? They are so busy making sure they stay 'open minded' that their brains have fallen out.
 

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Gray Peterson wrote:
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yes yes yes boycott AZ!!!

stay the f*** out of our state lol theres enough cali and Illinois homos here as it is
Yes, as if all gay people are monolithically anti-gun. :uhoh:
ok i take it you must be gay...

i figured there was someone here who would take that wrong. i didnt actually mean "homosexuals" idgaf if your gay or not, it was just a term to define the people coming out of those states. ironically enough, alot of gays come from CA (idk about IL since i never lived there) so my bad if i offended anyone. ill make sure i say "theres enough cali and Illinois liberal, anti-gun, people who cant think logically and pay attention to what the state laws are and blah blah...." next time

im not trying to be an asshole but come on dude, do you really think im singling out gays as a way to exploit the anti gun people? i mean ya i know they dont like guns but im not that mean
 

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r6-rider wrote:
Gray Peterson wrote:
r6-rider wrote:
yes yes yes boycott AZ!!!

stay the f*** out of our state lol theres enough cali and Illinois homos here as it is
Yes, as if all gay people are monolithically anti-gun. :uhoh:
ok i take it you must be gay...

i figured there was someone here who would take that wrong. i didnt actually mean "homosexuals" idgaf if your gay or not, it was just a term to define the people coming out of those states. ironically enough, alot of gays come from CA (idk about IL since i never lived there) so my bad if i offended anyone. ill make sure i say "theres enough cali and Illinois liberal, anti-gun, people who cant think logically and pay attention to what the state laws are and blah blah...." next time

im not trying to be an @#$% but come on dude, do you really think im singling out gays as a way to exploit the anti gun people? i mean ya i know they dont like guns but im not that mean
He's just trying to be one of those "don't say 'that's so gay'" commercials.

I started saying it specifically because those ads got in my face and tried to tell me what to do..... Social imposition of thought-crime law requires defiance.

That was GAY!
 

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Fetus wrote:
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75% No The 'extremists' are winning!
No, we are winning . read it again it says " do you think a travel boycott is necssary "

no is the right answer

That's whatI said. It's 77% 'NO' as of now. No... as in there is no need to boycott AZ. Fromme apparently is totally ignorant of AZ as 'Open Carry' has been recognized in AZ since statehood (1912) and prior. Open Carry has been recognized since before Fromme was born. He's only now realized it. I dunno 'bout anybody else... but I've never heard of a tourista gettin' whacked by any OC'r anywhere in AZ. Fromme's had a shock 'n a wake up call. There's a bunch'a states where OC is recognized. Fromme hasn't been payin' attention to the dynamic realityof the culture, like so many of these myopic lib-tard weenies who've suddenly gotten their panties inna wad. 'Extremists? I wonder if Fromme's ever been to Tombstone? He must'a thought all those guns on the streets there were 'stage props'.
 

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AW Rick Steves tour info was alot better anyway.
His call to boycott is a joke, and the travel world knows it, besides the tour season is starting and it will generate more travelers to see if the story is real.
Curiousity and the desire to be different will increase the folks visiting AZ even with the economy like it is.
Perhaps we will be lucky and not have to hear of him any more.
Arizona got so much publicity on this one, nothing like free juice.
IMO
 

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He is of course welcome to boycott wherever he sees fit.

Arizona has historically been a very pro gun state, so it shouldnt've been a shock to him that open carry is legal here.

If he feels safer wherever he hails from then so be it, although I would find it rather humorous if his home state was in fact an OC state as well.
 

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There is no such thing as a 'pro-gun' state. No more than there is a 'pro-speech' state or a 'pro-privacy' state. There ARE however states where a Constitutionally recognized and enumerated RIGHT is 'allowed for a fee', restricted, regulated or denied, in spite of 'Shall Not Be Infringed' being the recognized 'Law of the Land'.

Government does not have rights nor can government grant them. Government has 'Authority'. People have Rights. There are those in government, the mediaand education who continue to confuse rights with permission, license, priveledge or allowance. Rights would exist if there were no government. Those 'certain inalienable rights' that men are born with. This Marxistobfuscation has slowly crept into even rational thinking. Rights are not 'legal'. Rights are recognized pre-existing human processes and behaviors.


Arizona has recognized the right of it's citizens to keep and bear arms in their own defense or the defense of the state since Statehood (1912) and a century before. It has been a recognized right since before your great grandparents were born. It has been a right since before any 'pro-gun' / 'anti-gun'verbiage was ever uttered. It's been carved in stone in the Arizona Constitution (Sec 2 Art 26) for 97 years.

The RIGHT to bear arms in Arizona was never an issue. It was and remains a Right. With all rights comes personal responsibility... A trait somehow foreign to these socialist nanny statists who view this (and us) as something new and extreme. Something to be feared... because... 'They don't do this in Chicago, New York, Baltimore of Trenton.' They don't do this in those myopic centers of stupidity where they remainclueless of what lies beyond their own narrow borders while championing 'Tolerance & Diversity.

That is... until something that doesn't fit their narrow view of Diversity can't possibly be Tolerated. Hypocrites all.
 

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Sonora Rebel wrote:
There is no such thing as a 'pro-gun' state. No more than there is a 'pro-speech' state or a 'pro-privacy' state. There ARE however states where a Constitutionally recognized and enumerated RIGHT is 'allowed for a fee', restricted, regulated or denied, in spite of 'Shall Not Be Infringed' being the recognized 'Law of the Land'.

Government does not have rights nor can government grant them. Government has 'Authority'. People have Rights. There are those in government, the mediaand education who continue to confuse rights with permission, license, priveledge or allowance. Rights would exist if there were no government. Those 'certain inalienable rights' that men are born with. This Marxistobfuscation has slowly crept into even rational thinking. Rights are not 'legal'. Rights are recognized pre-existing human processes and behaviors.


Arizona has recognized the right of it's citizens to keep and bear arms in their own defense or the defense of the state since Statehood (1912) and a century before. It has been a recognized right since before your great grandparents were born. It has been a right since before any 'pro-gun' / 'anti-gun'verbiage was ever uttered. It's been carved in stone in the Arizona Constitution (Sec 2 Art 26) for 97 years.

The RIGHT to bear arms in Arizona was never an issue. It was and remains a Right. With all rights comes personal responsibility... A trait somehow foreign to these socialist nanny statists who view this (and us) as something new and extreme. Something to be feared... because... 'They don't do this in Chicago, New York, Baltimore of Trenton.' They don't do this in those myopic centers of stupidity where they remainclueless of what lies beyond their own narrow borders while championing 'Tolerance & Diversity.

That is... until something that doesn't fit their narrow view of Diversity can't possibly be Tolerated. Hypocrites all.

Well then allow me to rephrase.

Historically, Az has always been a state that is the closest to the true understanding of the 2A compared to other states.

Obviously the true reading of the 2A shows us that keeping and bearing of arms is a right naturally held by human beings and shall not be infringed. Likewise, this has not stopped the "anti-gun" crowd from restricting on those rights through various legislation battles.

So as it sits, AZ has been a more "pro gun" state than most other states in the country. This is not to say gun rights need permission, licensing or anything other than a heartbeat in a human being to apply.
 
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