HankT
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Initial information points toward legally obtained guns. This one may be pretty bad for uslaw abiding gun owners.
Some information has beenpresented that Delgado was on his way to a gun free zone (the VA) to shoot the place up.
If Delgado would have shot up a bunch of victims, it would have been bad. Real bad.
Of course, we could have gotten ready to handle the resulting media onslaught onguns and goofy guys with same bygoing on the "attack"first and asking questions like:
"When are people going to get real and prepare for self-defense?"
"At what point are we supposed to feel sympathy for people who refuse to be ready to defend themselves. In this day and age, when the 2nd Amendment is recognized by varying degrees of shall-issue in 44 states (including PA.)"
"Out of [X number of] people shot in the room/facility, NONE thought personal defense important enough to have a gun with them?"
"...come on! After VA Tech, Trolley Square, the church shooting, the college auditorium shooting, and the Nordstroms shooting [and the Collier PA shooting] , these people did not consider self-defense important enough to be armed?"
Citizen, 8/4/09
ThankGod that didn't happen. Roberts may have saved dozens of lives on Wednesday. We just don't know yet.
What we do know is that we have another goof with a gun to explain away. Again.
I'm getting rather PO'd at these GWAGs. They're damaging my rights! :cuss:
There's got to be a way to take their guns away from them so that they don't do shizzit like this...
August 20, 2009
[font="Times New Roman, serif"]Police: Tampa officer fatally shot by heavily armed man (video)[/font]
TAMPA — A seemingly simple conversation with a suspicious person turned into a deadly fight Wednesday night, when police say Corporal Mike Roberts was shot by a man armed with four different guns.
Police say the shooter, Humberto Delgado, Jr., was armed with a total of four guns, including an AR-15 assault rifle he pulled from a canvas bag and pointed at officers who had responded to the area to help Roberts.
Roberts first encountered Delgado on the east side of Nebraska Avenue, about six blocks south of Busch Boulevard, near Central Radiator and Auto Air, investigators said. Delgado had a cane and a shopping cart with multiple items in it.
Roberts got out of his patrol car to talk to Delgado, but the talk soon became a fight, Tampa Police Assistant Chief Jane Castor said.
"At one point, the suspect broke away from the officer and ran down the block but the officer tackled him," added Castor. There, near Nebraska Avenue and Arctic Street, Delgado pulled out a pistol, Castor said.
Castor described what was a "very violent struggle between the suspect and the officer," and said Delgado shot Corporal Roberts once. The bullet entered the officer's chest through his right shoulder -- an area not protected by his bulletproof vest.
"The officer was wearing his bulletproof vest, but the suspect got a [single] shot off that hit him in the arm. The bullet went through the arm and hit him in the chest, missing the vest," Castor said.
When Roberts' supervising sergeant arrived, Castor says Delgado pointed an assault rifle at him. The sergeant ducked behind a dumpster for cover and lost track of the suspect. But witnesses kept watching and were able to direct a K9 unit to Delgado, who gave up in the back yard of a house.
In all, investigators said Delgado was armed with three handguns, an assault rifle, and ammunition. Officers found a receipt showing some of the weapons had been purchased in the area of Fort Bragg, North Carolina. Detectives will not say whether Delgado has a military past.
Police records show Humberto Delgado, Jr. lives in Oldsmar.
The Corporal Mike Roberts died at Tampa General Hospital where he was treated for the gunshot wound. Mayor Pam Iorio and Tampa Police Chief Stephen Hogue were both at the hospital Wednesday night into Thursday.
Flowers, candles, and a photo adorn the fallen officers' memorial in front of Tampa Police headquarters.
Roberts is the first TPD officer to be shot and killed in the line of duty since 2001.
http://news-press.com/article/20090820/NEWS01/90820006
Initial information points toward legally obtained guns. This one may be pretty bad for uslaw abiding gun owners.
Some information has beenpresented that Delgado was on his way to a gun free zone (the VA) to shoot the place up.
If Delgado would have shot up a bunch of victims, it would have been bad. Real bad.
Of course, we could have gotten ready to handle the resulting media onslaught onguns and goofy guys with same bygoing on the "attack"first and asking questions like:
"When are people going to get real and prepare for self-defense?"
"At what point are we supposed to feel sympathy for people who refuse to be ready to defend themselves. In this day and age, when the 2nd Amendment is recognized by varying degrees of shall-issue in 44 states (including PA.)"
"Out of [X number of] people shot in the room/facility, NONE thought personal defense important enough to have a gun with them?"
"...come on! After VA Tech, Trolley Square, the church shooting, the college auditorium shooting, and the Nordstroms shooting [and the Collier PA shooting] , these people did not consider self-defense important enough to be armed?"
Citizen, 8/4/09
ThankGod that didn't happen. Roberts may have saved dozens of lives on Wednesday. We just don't know yet.
What we do know is that we have another goof with a gun to explain away. Again.
I'm getting rather PO'd at these GWAGs. They're damaging my rights! :cuss:
There's got to be a way to take their guns away from them so that they don't do shizzit like this...
August 20, 2009
[font="Times New Roman, serif"]Police: Tampa officer fatally shot by heavily armed man (video)[/font]
TAMPA — A seemingly simple conversation with a suspicious person turned into a deadly fight Wednesday night, when police say Corporal Mike Roberts was shot by a man armed with four different guns.
Police say the shooter, Humberto Delgado, Jr., was armed with a total of four guns, including an AR-15 assault rifle he pulled from a canvas bag and pointed at officers who had responded to the area to help Roberts.
Roberts first encountered Delgado on the east side of Nebraska Avenue, about six blocks south of Busch Boulevard, near Central Radiator and Auto Air, investigators said. Delgado had a cane and a shopping cart with multiple items in it.
Roberts got out of his patrol car to talk to Delgado, but the talk soon became a fight, Tampa Police Assistant Chief Jane Castor said.
"At one point, the suspect broke away from the officer and ran down the block but the officer tackled him," added Castor. There, near Nebraska Avenue and Arctic Street, Delgado pulled out a pistol, Castor said.
Castor described what was a "very violent struggle between the suspect and the officer," and said Delgado shot Corporal Roberts once. The bullet entered the officer's chest through his right shoulder -- an area not protected by his bulletproof vest.
"The officer was wearing his bulletproof vest, but the suspect got a [single] shot off that hit him in the arm. The bullet went through the arm and hit him in the chest, missing the vest," Castor said.
When Roberts' supervising sergeant arrived, Castor says Delgado pointed an assault rifle at him. The sergeant ducked behind a dumpster for cover and lost track of the suspect. But witnesses kept watching and were able to direct a K9 unit to Delgado, who gave up in the back yard of a house.
In all, investigators said Delgado was armed with three handguns, an assault rifle, and ammunition. Officers found a receipt showing some of the weapons had been purchased in the area of Fort Bragg, North Carolina. Detectives will not say whether Delgado has a military past.
Police records show Humberto Delgado, Jr. lives in Oldsmar.
The Corporal Mike Roberts died at Tampa General Hospital where he was treated for the gunshot wound. Mayor Pam Iorio and Tampa Police Chief Stephen Hogue were both at the hospital Wednesday night into Thursday.
Flowers, candles, and a photo adorn the fallen officers' memorial in front of Tampa Police headquarters.
Roberts is the first TPD officer to be shot and killed in the line of duty since 2001.
http://news-press.com/article/20090820/NEWS01/90820006