Statesman
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Guys,
Since your state will be considering concealed carry in the near future, I saw an opportunity to bring up my idea of a COT (Certificate of Training). There's a better way to regulate concealed carry that doesn't involve a license/permit system. I wrote about it extensively on the post below, but i've included an excerpt in this post so you get the idea. The premise of the post, is that, IMHO, a license/permit system does not serve a legitimate function. You'll see why.
In summary, I believe my idea would be less burdensome for the state government to maintain. CCDW carriers would have due process in court if the state wanted to revoke your right to carry concealed, so the anti's have no basis to argue against it, other than the cost of having someone's rights denied in court. Once you pass the educational part of the requirement, written in the law, you receive a Certificate of Training, and you are therefore competent to carry concealed for life. No license is needed. There is no need for a renewal of licenses, ever, because you have passed the minimum qualifications already.
http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/view_topic.php?id=15852&forum_id=65&highlight=unlicensing
The ideal CCDW? The COT.
I would support an objective skills/competency "test", which we have in KY. IMHO, a license is not needed, however. In my ideal scenario, if you pass the state minimum test, defined by legislators, you get a COT (Certificate of Training), showing you are in compliance with the law, when concealing. Instead of a license, which is permission from the King, your name is put in a database of people who passed the COT, and the state has a duty to send it to you (but the state may charge a fee for the service). The COT will be the same size as a license is today, along with a mug shot. If you do not pass the test, you have not proven yourself competent, and therefore in violation of the law if you conceal. Those not declared competent could not conceal. I think this COT is a good compromise, since the burden of proof is somewhat shifted to the state, to show someone incompetent, mentally unstable, or criminal.
In summary, licenses (permission), should be shifted to Certificates of Training, which is a state issued affidavit, swearing upon oath that you have passed the state minimum competency test for CCDW. COTs cannot be revoked by an administrator, but a judge can issue a cease and desist order, demanding that you stop concealing your weapon. Hence, the state has to go to court to deny you your freedoms. Due process prevails.
For those of you who may not understand, in other words:
A COT supports your right to carry concealed.
A license is permission (a revokable privilege) from the state to carry concealed.
This is a rights versus a privilege issue! A COT is about rights!
Guys,
Since your state will be considering concealed carry in the near future, I saw an opportunity to bring up my idea of a COT (Certificate of Training). There's a better way to regulate concealed carry that doesn't involve a license/permit system. I wrote about it extensively on the post below, but i've included an excerpt in this post so you get the idea. The premise of the post, is that, IMHO, a license/permit system does not serve a legitimate function. You'll see why.
In summary, I believe my idea would be less burdensome for the state government to maintain. CCDW carriers would have due process in court if the state wanted to revoke your right to carry concealed, so the anti's have no basis to argue against it, other than the cost of having someone's rights denied in court. Once you pass the educational part of the requirement, written in the law, you receive a Certificate of Training, and you are therefore competent to carry concealed for life. No license is needed. There is no need for a renewal of licenses, ever, because you have passed the minimum qualifications already.
http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/view_topic.php?id=15852&forum_id=65&highlight=unlicensing
The ideal CCDW? The COT.
I would support an objective skills/competency "test", which we have in KY. IMHO, a license is not needed, however. In my ideal scenario, if you pass the state minimum test, defined by legislators, you get a COT (Certificate of Training), showing you are in compliance with the law, when concealing. Instead of a license, which is permission from the King, your name is put in a database of people who passed the COT, and the state has a duty to send it to you (but the state may charge a fee for the service). The COT will be the same size as a license is today, along with a mug shot. If you do not pass the test, you have not proven yourself competent, and therefore in violation of the law if you conceal. Those not declared competent could not conceal. I think this COT is a good compromise, since the burden of proof is somewhat shifted to the state, to show someone incompetent, mentally unstable, or criminal.
In summary, licenses (permission), should be shifted to Certificates of Training, which is a state issued affidavit, swearing upon oath that you have passed the state minimum competency test for CCDW. COTs cannot be revoked by an administrator, but a judge can issue a cease and desist order, demanding that you stop concealing your weapon. Hence, the state has to go to court to deny you your freedoms. Due process prevails.
For those of you who may not understand, in other words:
A COT supports your right to carry concealed.
A license is permission (a revokable privilege) from the state to carry concealed.
This is a rights versus a privilege issue! A COT is about rights!