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    ...The White House, hoping to allay fears of a security threat, has said that people are entitled to carry weapons outside such events if local laws allow it. "Those laws don't change when the president comes to your state or locality," spokesman Robert Gibbs said... --Mike Stuckey

    Gibbs probably heard what happened at the Manassas and Norfolk City Council meetings; he didn't want his press room filled with 100-150 angry VCDL members.


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    Check the map - NJ allows OC ?
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    Yeah, that map is not exactly accurate. It says that Maine allows OC with exceptions, and Mass. allows OC period. It also says MD allows it as well. That will be the day... But then again, it was a decent article for MSNBC. I thought they maintained a pretty neutral position.

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    Brandon now you have no excuse NOT OC'ing Tom's AR15 to the next Tea Party.

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    "Third Way’s Kessler said that despite last year’s landmark Heller ruling by the Supreme Court that upheld individual rights to own guns, “There is no constitutional right to carry a firearm. This is not even close on the constitutional scale — I have a right to carry a firearm wherever I go — it’s just not.”



    Right to KEEP and BEAR arms? Am I missing something?

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    From the "Hot Topic" forum thread on the article... I guess I am a little more skeptical.

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    Worth the read, but I don't think this article was any favor to us.

    MSNBC has a very liberal audience, and they wrote this article to that audience, with the purpose of "showing them" what the "crazies" are up to, and how "weird" we think.

    I believe another major purpose for the article was to paint the pro-gun folks to be in-fighting on this issue, and to present the anti-gun folks, as well as the anti-OC pro-gun folks, as the cooler minds of reason.

    Maybe I'm wrong, I guess you can make that call.

    I will say one thing though:

    'I think the gun lobby is starting to lose its clout,' Helmke said.
    That Helmke dude is one heck of an optimist!

    TFred

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    Lets hit this a bunch, show MSNBC where we stand.

    http://www.newsvine.com/_question/20...idential-event

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    richarcm wrote:
    "Third Way’s Kessler said that despite last year’s landmark Heller ruling by the Supreme Court that upheld individual rights to own guns, “There is no constitutional right to carry a firearm. This is not even close on the constitutional scale — I have a right to carry a firearm wherever I go — it’s just not.”



    Right to KEEP and BEAR arms? Am I missing something?
    what a moran.

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    richarcm wrote:
    "Third Way’s Kessler said that despite last year’s landmark Heller ruling by the Supreme Court that upheld individual rights to own guns, “There is no constitutional right to carry a firearm. This is not even close on the constitutional scale — I have a right to carry a firearm wherever I go — it’s just not.”



    Right to KEEP and BEAR arms? Am I missing something?
    I SWEAR! He knows damn well that it protects our right to carry, that turncoat just wont admit it. Its about as dumb as "well it depends on what is, is."

    the bill of rights is meant to be taken at face value, it is not to be interpreted, but read exactly at face value for what it says. Why would the founding fathers write thebill of rightsto where you had to "read between the lines" to understand it? Common logic would dictate they'd write in the most simple way to understand it so as to get the message across without having to decode and interpret it lest we lose the complete meaning of the amendments!!!

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