1245A Defender
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youre walking your dog and stop at the corner, right next to a cop, yourOCn your glock or etc. he says hi, i see you OC. he says, nice gun, carry on! there was no need or requirement for any further interaction. were all thinking, thats a perfect run in with LEO. he has no reason to ask for ID. he didnt try to defile your 2nd, 4th, or 5th A rights. you were commiting no crime, the mere presence of a gun is not RAS of a crime, he knows your armed, and lacking any further information about your past, present, or your future intentions, there is no reason to think you are dangerous. you do of course have $200, a big fat bank check, high limit credit card, pic ID, and your CPL, and a vidio/audio recorder. now just before the walk signal comes on for you. you pull up your tucked in sweatshirt and pull it down outside and over, to cover your OC, making it now CC! you say seeya to the nice cop and step off the curb. you still are as armed as you were a second ago, you are commmiting no crime,and lacking any further information about your past, present, or your future intentions, there is no reason to think you are any moredangerous than you were a second ago. now the cop has no RAS to "pat down", for officers safety, he knew you "were", armed. (terry v ohio). he cant stop or detain you withoutRAS of a crime, to ask for ID. (kolender v lawson)/(state v peters). im feeling very strongly that at the time you covered your gun, in this scenerio, that the only thing the cop can legaly do, is to watch for a crime! his chance to ask for a CPL is passed. you are now free to go! when you pass the next cop on the beat, youll be securly CCn, while walking your dog, legally, legally, legally! come on people! whats wrong with my reasoning? if you read this far; you got to have something to say! say it! i want 100% participation! EDIT HERE! if your from outa state, or from virginia, please keep in mind that this topic is particular to the state of washington! not the other states, or virginia! i would be proud to march for our 2nd A rights in VIRGINIA, with you guys,or any other state, with you guys. but im lookin for my state law, and the interpatation, right down todown to the gnats a$$.
youre walking your dog and stop at the corner, right next to a cop, yourOCn your glock or etc. he says hi, i see you OC. he says, nice gun, carry on! there was no need or requirement for any further interaction. were all thinking, thats a perfect run in with LEO. he has no reason to ask for ID. he didnt try to defile your 2nd, 4th, or 5th A rights. you were commiting no crime, the mere presence of a gun is not RAS of a crime, he knows your armed, and lacking any further information about your past, present, or your future intentions, there is no reason to think you are dangerous. you do of course have $200, a big fat bank check, high limit credit card, pic ID, and your CPL, and a vidio/audio recorder. now just before the walk signal comes on for you. you pull up your tucked in sweatshirt and pull it down outside and over, to cover your OC, making it now CC! you say seeya to the nice cop and step off the curb. you still are as armed as you were a second ago, you are commmiting no crime,and lacking any further information about your past, present, or your future intentions, there is no reason to think you are any moredangerous than you were a second ago. now the cop has no RAS to "pat down", for officers safety, he knew you "were", armed. (terry v ohio). he cant stop or detain you withoutRAS of a crime, to ask for ID. (kolender v lawson)/(state v peters). im feeling very strongly that at the time you covered your gun, in this scenerio, that the only thing the cop can legaly do, is to watch for a crime! his chance to ask for a CPL is passed. you are now free to go! when you pass the next cop on the beat, youll be securly CCn, while walking your dog, legally, legally, legally! come on people! whats wrong with my reasoning? if you read this far; you got to have something to say! say it! i want 100% participation! EDIT HERE! if your from outa state, or from virginia, please keep in mind that this topic is particular to the state of washington! not the other states, or virginia! i would be proud to march for our 2nd A rights in VIRGINIA, with you guys,or any other state, with you guys. but im lookin for my state law, and the interpatation, right down todown to the gnats a$$.