TexasNative
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ed wrote:
On the other hand, guns are indeed weapons, so it's not inherently wrong to call them that. I happen to not use the term regularly because I think it can cast an unfavorable light on firearms when we call them weapons, but it's certainly not an incorrect term.
The same goes for CHP vs CWP or CCW permit or CC license, or other similar generic terms. The CHP is the Virginia-specific version of a concealed carry license. Calling it a CWP isn't wrong, because it is a permit to carry a concealed weapon (your handgun). Just because it doesn't cover all weapons doesn't change the fact that it does allow you to carry a concealed weapon.
Hell, even in states where they're officially called Concealed Weapon Permits, it doesn't allow the permittee to carry any damn weapon they so choose. It's no different here other than the specific type of weapon permitted.
Sure, it's worthwhile, in some contexts, to emphasize that the Virginia permit only covers handguns, but not every damn time someone mentions a permit. It's usually not pertinent to the topic at hand, and only gets in the way of the main discussion. And that's why I think the incessant drumbeat about "It's a CHP, not a CWP" is a mistake, because it illuminates nothing and hinders understanding.
So anyway, the TLDR version is: it's wrong to call a magazine a clip, because a magazine isn't a clip. It's not wrong to call something specific by its generic term because it's still a part of that generic class. A CHP is a type of CWP, and a gun is a type of weapon.
Just my opinion, of course. You're allowed to be wrong, Ed, as you've proved so many times.
~ Boyd
I kid, I kid!
ed wrote:
Clips aren't magazines, and magazines aren't clips, so that's an entirely different kettle of fish....people look to us (OC'ers as an "authority"). So IMHO, I think it is important that I (or we if you agree) call the permits CHP's instead of CCWs, Magazines instead of clips and (here we go) guns, pistols, kimbers, glocks, ect. instead of WEAPONS.
:dude:
On the other hand, guns are indeed weapons, so it's not inherently wrong to call them that. I happen to not use the term regularly because I think it can cast an unfavorable light on firearms when we call them weapons, but it's certainly not an incorrect term.
The same goes for CHP vs CWP or CCW permit or CC license, or other similar generic terms. The CHP is the Virginia-specific version of a concealed carry license. Calling it a CWP isn't wrong, because it is a permit to carry a concealed weapon (your handgun). Just because it doesn't cover all weapons doesn't change the fact that it does allow you to carry a concealed weapon.
Hell, even in states where they're officially called Concealed Weapon Permits, it doesn't allow the permittee to carry any damn weapon they so choose. It's no different here other than the specific type of weapon permitted.
Sure, it's worthwhile, in some contexts, to emphasize that the Virginia permit only covers handguns, but not every damn time someone mentions a permit. It's usually not pertinent to the topic at hand, and only gets in the way of the main discussion. And that's why I think the incessant drumbeat about "It's a CHP, not a CWP" is a mistake, because it illuminates nothing and hinders understanding.
So anyway, the TLDR version is: it's wrong to call a magazine a clip, because a magazine isn't a clip. It's not wrong to call something specific by its generic term because it's still a part of that generic class. A CHP is a type of CWP, and a gun is a type of weapon.
Just my opinion, of course. You're allowed to be wrong, Ed, as you've proved so many times.
~ Boyd
I kid, I kid!