heresolong
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Where on earth did he say that he called the cops before going out?
Where on earth did he say that he called the cops before going out?
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OCing on Metro buses downtown Seattle.8-31-9
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There is a time and a place for everything under the sun.
Active confrontation to achieve education and publicity for our rights is valid.
Rosa Parks could have sat in the back of the bus.
There are numerous incidents where it is discovered that "people", be they neighbors,customers, managers, employees, legislators, judgesor (Heaven Forbid!) LEO's, discover that they do NOT, in fact, know what they are doing. They either are ignorant of the law, individual or collective rights or just arrogant enough to try to place their interpretation of what is right and wrong on others. Sometimes they're victims of poor training, confusing policiesorbad laws.
So, some people and organizations choose to make a point of setting up situations where the point can be made.
With regard to gun rights, that Chris guy in Phoenix, William Kostic in NH, Phil Van Cleeve in VA, LaPierre with the NRAand countless individuals and groups setup scenarios and take steps to control the situation so that people do not get hurt while they are achieving their goals of education or bringing up a court case to test or establish rights and boundaries.
Some of us are doing a Meet and Greet tomorrow ata localMunicipal Park. A courtesy notification is being made in the hope that IF someone calls 911 to report a man with a gun, the operator will ask questions to determine if there is brandishing, threats and violence or just a group of citizens cooking some hotdogs on a holiday weekend. If the operators and police officers encounter these situations after proper briefings and training, maybe there will be fewer test cases needed in the future.
There is a time and a place for everything under the sun.
Active confrontation to achieve education and publicity for our rights is valid.
Rosa Parks could have sat in the back of the bus.
There are numerous incidents where it is discovered that "people", be they neighbors,customers, managers, employees, legislators, judgesor (Heaven Forbid!) LEO's, discover that they do NOT, in fact, know what they are doing. They either are ignorant of the law, individual or collective rights or just arrogant enough to try to place their interpretation of what is right and wrong on others. Sometimes they're victims of poor training, confusing policiesorbad laws.
So, some people and organizations choose to make a point of setting up situations where the point can be made.
With regard to gun rights, that Chris guy in Phoenix, William Kostic in NH, Phil Van Cleeve in VA, LaPierre with the NRAand countless individuals and groups setup scenarios and take steps to control the situation so that people do not get hurt while they are achieving their goals of education or bringing up a court case to test or establish rights and boundaries.
Some of us are doing a Meet and Greet tomorrow ata localMunicipal Park. A courtesy notification is being made in the hope that IF someone calls 911 to report a man with a gun, the operator will ask questions to determine if there is brandishing, threats and violence or just a group of citizens cooking some hotdogs on a holiday weekend. If the operators and police officers encounter these situations after proper briefings and training, maybe there will be fewer test cases needed in the future.
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wheelgunner with all due respectit looks like you are not aware of seattle007's previous posts and deeds he has called cops so many times before leaving his house. Even at one instance he called cops before he met Deros72 in a park in downtown seattle. He call cops before any OC get together. He tried to Carry at an event at seattle center when he called DaveWorkmans's office and Cops, he was strongly opposed for his actions. His actions were also point of discussions at Willow Lake meeting and Mercer Island Picnic. As you said I can go on and on with his actions which are no good to OC movement. It's good he is trying to excercise his rights but he should just stop calling ahead and stop stiring the pot.
wheelgunner with all due respectit looks like you are not aware of seattle007's previous posts and deeds he has called cops so many times before leaving his house. Even at one instance he called cops before he met Deros72 in a park in downtown seattle. He call cops before any OC get together. He tried to Carry at an event at seattle center when he called DaveWorkmans's office and Cops, he was strongly opposed for his actions. His actions were also point of discussions at Willow Lake meeting and Mercer Island Picnic. As you said I can go on and on with his actions which are no good to OC movement. It's good he is trying to excercise his rights but he should just stop calling ahead and stop stiring the pot.
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so he calls ahead? whoopie ******* doo. Can see all the anal retentive whiners ruining it for anyone else. you are the ones hoping for a confritation. and can see from other posts how you think you are always in the right but you'd rather get into someones face.
so he calls ahead? whoopie ******* doo. Can see all the anal retentive whiners ruining it for anyone else. you are the ones hoping for a confritation. and can see from other posts how you think you are always in the right but you'd rather get into someones face.
Manu
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Boo I am trying to figure out whom you are addressing to?
Boo I am trying to figure out whom you are addressing to?
amlevin
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seattleric007 wrote:
seattleric007 wrote:
The bus driver probably appreciated the effect you had on everyone.
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Call to local police: (Hypothetical of course)
"Hello - Police, I'll be driving my car to the store - umm no Im not drunk, Yes I have a license, No I wont be speeding... I just thought I'd let you know I will be obeying the law while driving to the store, but just in case someone calls in my car and complains for obeying the law, I'd call in advance to let you know I will be obeying the law."
Yep... pretty much sums it up right there fellas!
:banghead:
SP
Call to local police: (Hypothetical of course)
"Hello - Police, I'll be driving my car to the store - umm no Im not drunk, Yes I have a license, No I wont be speeding... I just thought I'd let you know I will be obeying the law while driving to the store, but just in case someone calls in my car and complains for obeying the law, I'd call in advance to let you know I will be obeying the law."
Yep... pretty much sums it up right there fellas!
:banghead:
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seattleric007
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Dear Deros, Go **** yourself! People told me you like to be the center of attention. I carry my gunreversed on my left hip because for 14 years I carried it on my right.I have long arms and its easier to draw across, and its eaiser to defend that way, and its eaiser to get to my back up. So go **** yourself old man,and have another cigerrette bitch and hopefully your 4th heartattack will kill your dumb ass. I personally think your suffering side effects from your Viagra. And in closing how is lifedown there in the poor hood with the black drug dealers,guess you couldn't do any better!
Dear Deros, Go **** yourself! People told me you like to be the center of attention. I carry my gunreversed on my left hip because for 14 years I carried it on my right.I have long arms and its easier to draw across, and its eaiser to defend that way, and its eaiser to get to my back up. So go **** yourself old man,and have another cigerrette bitch and hopefully your 4th heartattack will kill your dumb ass. I personally think your suffering side effects from your Viagra. And in closing how is lifedown there in the poor hood with the black drug dealers,guess you couldn't do any better!
Batousaii
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Sounds like the whole thread is unnecessary roughness...
.... is this the example we want to set here in WA ?
... OP is not a troll, or a rabble rouser like AWDStyles or U8Dust, he is trying to find his way through this thing like many of us less experienced at OC (myself included). Where as i wouldn't call police or establishments ahead of time (myself) i can see how someone entirely new to the idea of OC might be inclined to do so. Lets try to offer some guidance and care and teaching and training to those who are in need or new to this..... Now, 007, being upset is one thing, but please don't revert to simple name calling, it is very un-becoming of any gentleman or lady of good standing. I would advise politely pointing out that being teased or heckled for your current way of going about things is not very civil, and make known that it offends you... it's much more civil and keeps one in the right.
Lets remember, even with different viewpoints or avenues of approach, we all desire the same end goal, and we all want to be comfortable and confident arm bearers.
-- My post is NOT meant to be rude, pointed, or "against" anyone here, please take the viewpoint for what it is..... "no bad dogs" lets just move forward from here please.
ALAS .... it is said... "an armed society is a polite society" ... lets all set the example and show them what WA is about... practice how we would like to be spoken to face to face and armed eh ?
Kindly <tips hat>
Bat
Sounds like the whole thread is unnecessary roughness...
.... is this the example we want to set here in WA ?
... OP is not a troll, or a rabble rouser like AWDStyles or U8Dust, he is trying to find his way through this thing like many of us less experienced at OC (myself included). Where as i wouldn't call police or establishments ahead of time (myself) i can see how someone entirely new to the idea of OC might be inclined to do so. Lets try to offer some guidance and care and teaching and training to those who are in need or new to this..... Now, 007, being upset is one thing, but please don't revert to simple name calling, it is very un-becoming of any gentleman or lady of good standing. I would advise politely pointing out that being teased or heckled for your current way of going about things is not very civil, and make known that it offends you... it's much more civil and keeps one in the right.
Lets remember, even with different viewpoints or avenues of approach, we all desire the same end goal, and we all want to be comfortable and confident arm bearers.
-- My post is NOT meant to be rude, pointed, or "against" anyone here, please take the viewpoint for what it is..... "no bad dogs" lets just move forward from here please.
ALAS .... it is said... "an armed society is a polite society" ... lets all set the example and show them what WA is about... practice how we would like to be spoken to face to face and armed eh ?
Kindly <tips hat>
Bat
compmanio365
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Resorting to name calling and profanity shows how mature certain posters really are. You can express an opinion while still being mature and adult. I really wonder sometimes if certain people are old enough to carry a gun......:banghead:
Resorting to name calling and profanity shows how mature certain posters really are. You can express an opinion while still being mature and adult. I really wonder sometimes if certain people are old enough to carry a gun......:banghead:
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its the internet.
people take things way to serious.
now the way he went about what he wrote could be seen as poor taste in words.
i find it funny everyone gets so agitated by words on the web. did the words hurt you? no!
don't like what you see tough shit.
why do you think we have the first admendment or do you want to take that away?
its the internet.
people take things way to serious.
now the way he went about what he wrote could be seen as poor taste in words.
i find it funny everyone gets so agitated by words on the web. did the words hurt you? no!
don't like what you see tough shit.
why do you think we have the first admendment or do you want to take that away?
Batousaii
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I never said anything about curtailing free speech. And of course i am very familiar with Internet behaviours, as i am an avid MMO Player. But i will ask, do you want to apear on the same level as the common Warcraft punk that inhabits the servers trade channel calling each other no0bz and claiming pwnage aboveall because we dominate? - Or are we infact trying to present a more reasonable and mature image for others to see as they read across our posts. In many cases, this forum may be the only insight others have to base a determination off of and decide what they think about us as an OC community. I don't particularly want popular opinion to see us as a bunch of newbs running around trying to pwn each other.... I want to see the tides change so we can, as individuals, openly carry our weapons, in a style and manner comfortable to ourselves, without the police showing up, because they (people, police, state law makers etc.) know we are responsible and mature people able to handle ourselves..... It's about image, not about inhibiting the 2nd amendment. You can get the same point across without no0dish insults or bashing your fellow arm bearer in an attempt to pwn.
- Or - we can run around pWning the No0blets cause we dominate....... lets see how long that lasts before State repeals preemption and lets Seattle rule the State's vision..... then the sheeple can dominate.... ya know, sincethey (we)seem so socially inept, why should we let the cavemen have guns, look how they treat eachother, let em in public ?? ya right ...(baaa - Baaa-)
- Yes BTW, i can be very rude and curt if i chose to excersize my free speach that way- believe me, it is niether pretty or becomming as i have a lots of skill built up from trade channel in said MMO..... I pwded fata1ity ... did you ?
-- Politeness and manners define our image more than you think.
:?Bat.
I never said anything about curtailing free speech. And of course i am very familiar with Internet behaviours, as i am an avid MMO Player. But i will ask, do you want to apear on the same level as the common Warcraft punk that inhabits the servers trade channel calling each other no0bz and claiming pwnage aboveall because we dominate? - Or are we infact trying to present a more reasonable and mature image for others to see as they read across our posts. In many cases, this forum may be the only insight others have to base a determination off of and decide what they think about us as an OC community. I don't particularly want popular opinion to see us as a bunch of newbs running around trying to pwn each other.... I want to see the tides change so we can, as individuals, openly carry our weapons, in a style and manner comfortable to ourselves, without the police showing up, because they (people, police, state law makers etc.) know we are responsible and mature people able to handle ourselves..... It's about image, not about inhibiting the 2nd amendment. You can get the same point across without no0dish insults or bashing your fellow arm bearer in an attempt to pwn.
- Or - we can run around pWning the No0blets cause we dominate....... lets see how long that lasts before State repeals preemption and lets Seattle rule the State's vision..... then the sheeple can dominate.... ya know, sincethey (we)seem so socially inept, why should we let the cavemen have guns, look how they treat eachother, let em in public ?? ya right ...(baaa - Baaa-)
- Yes BTW, i can be very rude and curt if i chose to excersize my free speach that way- believe me, it is niether pretty or becomming as i have a lots of skill built up from trade channel in said MMO..... I pwded fata1ity ... did you ?
-- Politeness and manners define our image more than you think.
:?Bat.
compmanio365
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The issue is that such things serve to do nothing but create animosity and anger around here. Such things on any other forum would serve to get you banned, and rightly so. It seems that many posters here are around just to create problems and start fights with other users. If that is the case, we don't need such troublemakers in our midsts. If you can't find anything constructive to say, then please simply bite your tongue. Or at least take your pissing matches to PM where they won't reflect negatively on the board.
The issue is that such things serve to do nothing but create animosity and anger around here. Such things on any other forum would serve to get you banned, and rightly so. It seems that many posters here are around just to create problems and start fights with other users. If that is the case, we don't need such troublemakers in our midsts. If you can't find anything constructive to say, then please simply bite your tongue. Or at least take your pissing matches to PM where they won't reflect negatively on the board.
David.Car
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Wasn't OC but wanted to say I just got back from Seattle and I was very happy to have my firearm with me one night. We were leaving the convention center around midnight. At the end of the block from our bus stop the Seattle PD had 3 black males in handcuffs. It ended up looking like a drug confiscation, cite, and then a release.
The males then proceeded to get on the same bus as me and my friends, and on 2 seperate occasions try to start an argument with different people over ridiculous things.
Thankfully none of us were stupid enough to fall for their bull and end up in a fight.
Wasn't OC but wanted to say I just got back from Seattle and I was very happy to have my firearm with me one night. We were leaving the convention center around midnight. At the end of the block from our bus stop the Seattle PD had 3 black males in handcuffs. It ended up looking like a drug confiscation, cite, and then a release.
The males then proceeded to get on the same bus as me and my friends, and on 2 seperate occasions try to start an argument with different people over ridiculous things.
Thankfully none of us were stupid enough to fall for their bull and end up in a fight.
warrenwilson
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Pot. Kettle. Black.
DEROS72 wrote:
Pot. Kettle. Black.
DEROS72 wrote:
j2l3
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That picture was taken intentionally to show people that Seattle was not the problem everyone assumed it was. Nothing more, nothing less. That picture was also a picture of opportunity. We were at the Tea Party at Westlake Center and I saw all these police officers standing there and shot the picture. DEROS72 did not stage that nor did he seek out the police for the picture.
I was there, I shot the picture.
warrenwilson wrote:
That picture was taken intentionally to show people that Seattle was not the problem everyone assumed it was. Nothing more, nothing less. That picture was also a picture of opportunity. We were at the Tea Party at Westlake Center and I saw all these police officers standing there and shot the picture. DEROS72 did not stage that nor did he seek out the police for the picture.
I was there, I shot the picture.
warrenwilson wrote:
Pot. Kettle. Black.
DEROS72 wrote:
Aaron1124
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j2l3 wrote:
j2l3 wrote:
A tea party? Sorry if that's a term that I'm not familiar with, but what is a tea party?That picture was taken intentionally to show people that Seattle was not the problem everyone assumed it was. Nothing more, nothing less. That picture was also a picture of opportunity. We were at the Tea Party at Westlake Center and I saw all these police officers standing there and shot the picture. DEROS72 did not stage that nor did he seek out the police for the picture.
I was there, I shot the picture.
warrenwilson wrote:
Pot. Kettle. Black.
DEROS72 wrote:
j2l3
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A Tea Party is an Anti-Tax protest of sorts. It was held April 15th in Westlake Park downtown. They were held across the country.
A Tea Party is an Anti-Tax protest of sorts. It was held April 15th in Westlake Park downtown. They were held across the country.
Manu
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Batousaii wrote:
Batousaii wrote:
Very mature post hats off to youSounds like the whole thread is unnecessary roughness...
.... is this the example we want to set here in WA ?
... OP is not a troll, or a rabble rouser like AWDStyles or U8Dust, he is trying to find his way through this thing like many of us less experienced at OC (myself included). Where as i wouldn't call police or establishments ahead of time (myself) i can see how someone entirely new to the idea of OC might be inclined to do so. Lets try to offer some guidance and care and teaching and training to those who are in need or new to this..... Now, 007, being upset is one thing, but please don't revert to simple name calling, it is very un-becoming of any gentleman or lady of good standing. I would advise politely pointing out that being teased or heckled for your current way of going about things is not very civil, and make known that it offends you... it's much more civil and keeps one in the right.
Lets remember, even with different viewpoints or avenues of approach, we all desire the same end goal, and we all want to be comfortable and confident arm bearers.
-- My post is NOT meant to be rude, pointed, or "against" anyone here, please take the viewpoint for what it is..... "no bad dogs" lets just move forward from here please.
ALAS .... it is said... "an armed society is a polite society" ... lets all set the example and show them what WA is about... practice how we would like to be spoken to face to face and armed eh ?
Kindly <tips hat>