I was shopping with my girlfriend in the mall for an hour with no problems. I walked into nordstroms and I knew there was going to be a problem because the young teenage girl behind the jewelry counter immediately noticed my sidearm. I saw her talk to one of her co workers, then get on the phone. I didn't know if she was calling the police or the security. However, I finished looking and right as I was about to leave Nordstroms, an african american male named "Sam" from loss prevention approached me. He said that I could not carry on nordstroms because it's private property. I asked him if there was a written policy I could reference, or if he was just making this up on the spot without properly knowing policy. He refused to give me a written copy, saying that it's "private property" over and over again. I explained to him there are no signs on the doors either at the front of the store or the entrance leading to the parking lot. Anyways, I was getting no where with him. I left.
As I was leaving, I went into another store and did some shopping and three security guards and a police officer approached me. Only the security officer spoke to me. He said that I needed to leave because they do not allow firearms on the property. I asked him for a written policy as well, he kinda reached into his pocket and grabbed some papers, then his other security officer friend just chimed in and said "This is private property, you need to leave." I kindly explained that there are no signs on the doors, and I have shopped here multiple times with no issues. He didn't care, he said "We don't have to put signs, but you need to leave now."
I got up to leave, and they escorted me out.
I came home and I called Nordstroms. I spoke with Marla, she was the manager on duty. She said that because the chandler fashion center doesn't allow firearms they do not either. I asked if specifically nordstroms has a policy against it -- and she said yes. I then asked for written confirmation, or a place on the website I could go to verify and she said she doesn't have it. I then asked for her executive offices # she referred me to Charlotte Jensen, the store manager. I called back and she was not in. I asked the person who answered for the executive # and she gave me the "Store 1" Number which was 206-628-2111. I called that #, and I spoke w/ the lady. I asked her to transfer to me the executive office. She asked for anyone in particular. I asked for the President & CEO. She gave me Eric Nordstroms voice mail. I left a voicemail asking for clarification and to either call me or email me.
I have also emailed WestCor, the owner of the Chandler Fashion Center the following message:
I was emailing you for clarification on your policy on carrying firearms on your mall properties in Arizona. I have looked and there are not any signs posted that say, "No firearms." However, I was recently asked to leave your Chandler Fashion Center location due to openly carrying a firearm.
I do not know if you know this, however, Arizona state law allows for open carry unless specifically prohibited by the business owner. There are exceptions such as federal buildings, and bars.
Could you please clarify?
I am waiting for a response on that.
Just wanted to give you guys a heads up.