templar223
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OC didn't go so swimmingly for this guy at an Obamacare rally in Valparaiso.
From the page:
OBAMACARE RALLY AND COUNTER PROTEST/DETAINED BY POLICE FOR LEGAL OPEN CARRY!!*EXCLUSIVE FOOTAGE!*PART2
Hey guys.Today in a town by me there was an obamacare rally and a massive counter protest.In total about 50 people turned out in support of obamacare and the other 200 came to oppose it.Anyway me and my associate both open carry our firearms everywhere we go.Everything was going fine until an officer of the Valparaiso police department approached me asking what i had on my side then proceeded to grab my arm(assault?) and walk me to the back of a car and had me spread eagle like a criminal.He then proceeded to grill me on carrying a pistol and tell me that it was a "privilege" and "NOT A RIGHT!!". I maintained respect for the officers though i felt my rights were being violated and continued to remind them of my constitutional rights.When i set the camera down it fell over so all i got was audio.In the end my carry license and ID where legit and i was returned my firearm.I was nice to the police and offered to conceal even though i didnt have to.I just would like to say that aside from the grabbing of my arm and immediate treatment like a criminal,the Valparaiso police officers were very friendly,especially the female officer i had a nice conversation with and i have the up most respect for law enforcement.The vids are a little choppy because i edited out a lot of walking and stuff and i edited out my personal info and dead time in the second. I am just left wondering if the police these days even have to learn the constitution Less..
Walking around:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=eb5_1251953775
He gets detained here:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2b1_1251954307
I send this letter to the chief this morning:
The gentleman with a permit that was open carrying at the Obamacare event featured on the LiveLeak video appeared to be doing nothing wrong.
For your officer to suggest that he was "going to scare other people" as the main basis for the detention is not the carrier's problem, but rather the problem of "other people".
Just as we don't stop and question black men in white neighborhoods "because they might scare other people," we should not stop and detain individuals solely because they are observed to be open carrying.
I would urge you to better educate your officers on this matter. "Sensitivity training," if you will.
I look forward to being able to open carry (with my permits) in your city without being accosted by your police officers.
Thank you in advance.
John
OC didn't go so swimmingly for this guy at an Obamacare rally in Valparaiso.
From the page:
OBAMACARE RALLY AND COUNTER PROTEST/DETAINED BY POLICE FOR LEGAL OPEN CARRY!!*EXCLUSIVE FOOTAGE!*PART2
Hey guys.Today in a town by me there was an obamacare rally and a massive counter protest.In total about 50 people turned out in support of obamacare and the other 200 came to oppose it.Anyway me and my associate both open carry our firearms everywhere we go.Everything was going fine until an officer of the Valparaiso police department approached me asking what i had on my side then proceeded to grab my arm(assault?) and walk me to the back of a car and had me spread eagle like a criminal.He then proceeded to grill me on carrying a pistol and tell me that it was a "privilege" and "NOT A RIGHT!!". I maintained respect for the officers though i felt my rights were being violated and continued to remind them of my constitutional rights.When i set the camera down it fell over so all i got was audio.In the end my carry license and ID where legit and i was returned my firearm.I was nice to the police and offered to conceal even though i didnt have to.I just would like to say that aside from the grabbing of my arm and immediate treatment like a criminal,the Valparaiso police officers were very friendly,especially the female officer i had a nice conversation with and i have the up most respect for law enforcement.The vids are a little choppy because i edited out a lot of walking and stuff and i edited out my personal info and dead time in the second. I am just left wondering if the police these days even have to learn the constitution Less..
Walking around:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=eb5_1251953775
He gets detained here:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2b1_1251954307
I send this letter to the chief this morning:
The gentleman with a permit that was open carrying at the Obamacare event featured on the LiveLeak video appeared to be doing nothing wrong.
For your officer to suggest that he was "going to scare other people" as the main basis for the detention is not the carrier's problem, but rather the problem of "other people".
Just as we don't stop and question black men in white neighborhoods "because they might scare other people," we should not stop and detain individuals solely because they are observed to be open carrying.
I would urge you to better educate your officers on this matter. "Sensitivity training," if you will.
I look forward to being able to open carry (with my permits) in your city without being accosted by your police officers.
Thank you in advance.
John