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    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE...;pageId=108901

    I wonder how many OCDO members are paid FBI agents looking to entrap gunowners.

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    45acpForMe wrote:
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE...;pageId=108901

    I wonder how many OCDO members are paid FBI agents looking to entrap gunowners.
    Would all of the FBI plants and undercover agentsplease stand over therewith the OCDO members who are in the Witness Protection Program. We want to get some group pictures for the Yearbook.

    The FBI has infiltrated every organization including the Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts and the Campfire Girls. At one time the entire membership of the KKK in at least two southern states was estimated to be composed of FBI informants, snitches, and deep-undercover agents.

    We don't need no steenkin' FBIs to entrap us. Seems there are enough OCDO members who want to break the law on their own, or encourage others to become the test case,because they do not like how the law was written.

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    45acpForMe wrote:
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    I wonder how many OCDO members are paid FBI agents looking to entrap gunowners.
    This is the way to find out how many and who: If they disagree with what you say and spout anti-gun nonsense of any kind---then they are probably FBI.

    And if they tell you NOT to shoot your gun in all situations, it is 100% certain they are FBI.



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    HankT wrote:
    And if they tell you NOT to shoot your gun in all situations, it is 100% certain they are FBI.
    All joking aside, the article showed the FBI agent encouraging people to break the law.

    So I would say any OCDO member that calls for assassinations or general overthrow of the government shouldn't be banned since they are probably FBI.

    I sure am glad that our gubermant is using our tax dollars flushing out those right-wing conspirasissy's!

    (It would be better spent in Hawaii looking for a birth certificate)

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    Well, what else can you do but...not break the law?

    Very wrong of the FBI though.

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    thx997303 wrote:
    Well, what else can you do but...not break the law?

    Very wrong of the FBI though.
    With 22000 gun laws on the books I bet you and I both have broken at least one at some point. :-( Moral of the story is don't let internet-posts incite you to violence. ;-)

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    45acpForMe wrote:
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    And if they tell you NOT to shoot your gun in all situations, it is 100% certain they are FBI.
    All joking aside, the article showed the FBI agent encouraging people to break the law.

    So I would say any OCDO member that calls for assassinations or general overthrow of the government shouldn't be banned since they are probably FBI.

    I sure am glad that our gubermant is using our tax dollars flushing out those right-wing conspirasissy's!

    (It would be better spent in Hawaii looking for a birth certificate)
    Better spent looking for a birth certificate in Kenya.
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    45acpForMe wrote:
    So I would say any OCDO member that calls for assassinations or general overthrow of the government shouldn't be banned since they are probably FBI.
    Hmmm , so smoking357 is.....

    Uhm, never mind. Say no more.




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    HankT wrote:
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    So I would say any OCDO member that calls for assassinations or general overthrow of the government shouldn't be banned since they are probably FBI.
    Hmmm , so smoking357 is.....

    Uhm, never mind. Say no more.


    Well, which is it? Am I a huge Obama supporter or one who wants to overthrow his administration? I can be neither, but I can't be both.

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    COINTELPRO.... shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... !!

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    One very slippery ....Agent Provocateur....



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    Anyone dumb enough to blab about a 'project' of any significant magnitude gets what he deserves.

    Just like those that call in bomb threats.

    Those looking at making a scare will call, those who want the most casualties, wont.


    'An army of one'...

    Same reason why a bunch of troops huddled together can be taken out with one grenade.... If you have a bunch of troops spread out over a few hundred yards, you might get one with a grenade, but the others will know where the grenade came from, and take him out too...

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    HankT wrote:

    One very slippery ....Agent Provocateur....

    HankT, THANK YOU FOR THAT VIDEO link! I can't stand up yet.

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    45acpForMe wrote:
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE...;pageId=108901

    I wonder how many OCDO members are paid FBI agents looking to entrap gunowners.
    I can tell you there's one less, smoking357 couldn't have been anything other than a mole.
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    This kind of thing has been going on for a long time - google 'Co-Intel-Pro' or see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO - note:

    COINTELPRO (an acronym for Counter Intelligence Program) was a series of covert, and often illegal, projects conducted by the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) aimed at investigating and disrupting dissident political organizations within the United States. The FBI used covert operations from its inception, however formal COINTELPRO operations took place between 1956 and 1971.[2][/sup] The FBI's motivation at the time was "protecting national security, preventing violence, and maintaining the existing social and political order."
    According to FBI records, 85% of COINTELPRO resources were expended on infiltrating, disrupting, marginalizing, and/or subverting groups suspected of being subversive,[3][/sup] such as communist and socialist organizations; the women's rights movement; people suspected of building a "coalition of militant black nationalist groups" ranging from the Nation of Islam, The Black Panther Party and Republic of New Afrika to "those in the non-violent civil rights movement" such as Martin Luther King, Jr. and others associated with the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, the Congress of Racial Equality, and other civil rights groups; a broad range of organizations labelled "New Left", including Students for a Democratic Society, the National Lawyers Guild, the Weathermen, almost all groups protesting the Vietnam War, and even individual student demonstrators with no group affiliation; and nationalist groups such as those "seeking independence for Puerto Rico." The other 15% of COINTELPRO resources were expended to marginalize and subvert "white hate groups," including the Ku Klux Klan and National States' Rights Party. [4][/sup]
    The directives governing COINTELPRO were issued by FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover, who ordered FBI agents to "expose, disrupt, misdirect, discredit, or otherwise neutralize" the activities of these and their leaders.[5][/sup][6][/sup]


    ** It was proven in US District Court that COINTELPRO was responsible for actually constructing and planting a bomb in the car of Northern CA forest activists Judi Bari and Daryl Cherney and when the bomb exploded on the activists, the FBI blamed them and called the activists car bombers to attempt to discredit them - the federal court jury later awarded $2 million damages to the activists due to the defamation by the FBI when they were called car bombers in the press -


    ** It is known that COINTELPRO is still active - :what:


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    Well I guess we can advertise the "Bring your AOW to G-20 Summit' rally,
    and count the zip ties in the back of the unmarked cruisers to see how many
    'terrorists' are registered here.

    Of course johnny taliban now has a new leader from our great state,
    and they missed him while still on US soil. I still think he is a plain ol pirate
    myself, but I guess that won't make good headlines, and that is what makes them
    loose so many opportunities. Going for the headlines instead of locking up the bad
    guys.

    Just remember the current milk toast ag can't hold an incendiary grenade to Janet.:what:
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    It is me! I am teh spyzorz!!! All of your bases are belong to Big Brother nowzzz!
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    Look, gang. "agents" is plural. "Provocateur" is singular. One guy is an "agent provocateur" Two of then are "agents Provocateures" Three of them are Moe Larry and Shemp.

    Speaking of provocative, I have just published a fascinating and brilliant (no kidding) essay in my blog at wwwdailypoop.blogspot.com titled "Racism my ass". Check it out.

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    HankT wrote:
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    I wonder how many OCDO members are paid FBI agents looking to entrap gunowners.
    This is the way to find out how many and who: If they disagree with what you say and spout anti-gun nonsense of any kind---then they are probably FBI.

    And if they tell you NOT to shoot your gun in all situations, it is 100% certain they are FBI.

    Based on the experiences of Randy Weaver (Ruby Ridge) the exact opposite of what you say is true.

    Anyone who encourages you to break the law is the PIG. He was asked to saw off some shotguns. That seems stupid, as who needs special skills to saw a pipe?

    Assume everyone is a PIG is the only way to be sure, just as celibacy is the only proven way to avoid pregnancy.


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    Paranoia, paranoia, everyone's out to get me! I'm not FBI, I just play them on TV. :shock:

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    Well if you are on the fence. You can LIE to them and see if you stay out of jail.:P

    I don't advocate breaking the law. But I do advocate civil disobedience, and
    giving all the illegal storm troopers the respect they earn.

    +1 on cutting down a barrel.
    Weaver's mistake was not being prepared for snipers slaughtering his family.
    If you get in bed with hookers you shouldn't be surprised when you catch
    something. He should have had a plan to eradicate the infection.

    Well I guess the FBI is watching me once again. Just hope they didn't catch
    my comment about wanting a school bus for a poor mans bunker.

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    Yep, most snitches and the like, encourage illegal activity, that is how they get paid. We still have many many avenues of communication and resistance to tyranny, other than illegal/violent acts. Besides, even FBI are Americans, just like cops in general, we must be patient with our mis-guided countrymen. But let me say that not ALL cops or feds are bad people, just too many of them happen to be.

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    I don't care if I'm on a "list". I refuse to make "nicey nice" and cower in fear. I will say what I mean and mean what I say.

    I believe in God, guns, and my country.

    I know the current government not only believes exactly the opposite but is also working passing legislation on weekends and in the dark of night to undermine all three.

    I have no doubt I'm already on some "list".
    Gun control isn't about the gun at all.... for those who want gun control it is all about their own fragile egos, their own lack of self esteem, their own inner fears, and most importantly... their own desire to dominate others. And an openly carried gun is a slap in the face to all of those things.

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    Here's a great indicator as to what kind of fruit cakes we are dealing with.

    Remember all those "Question Authority" bumperstickers you used to see on cars driven usually accompanied by "re-elect Gore/Lieberman 2004" and some idiot saying attributed to Einstien? Now that Oboonoo Bama has been "president", the lefties have scraped those stickers right off.

    We need a poster of Obama captioned "OBEY", just like the lefties had of Bush. See, now that they think they are in power, they don't want anyone questioning their authority. And it is too bad these flakes may only find out who they sold their souls to when it is too late.

    Let this thing go on long enough and they will find that, far from being "in power" they are "useful idiots" who have accepted the chains they will wear. And then who will they look to to save them? US, that's who.

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