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    Anyone interested meeting this saturday at Balboa Island and Newport Pier for some UOC fun?
    There are absolutely no SCHOOLS near the area!



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    Is Balboa pier municipal property? Keep in mind Orange County prohibits firearms possession on municipal or "public" property...
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    We dont have to go onto the pier!

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    demnogis wrote:
    Is Balboa pier municipal property? Keep in mind Orange County prohibits firearms possession on municipal or "public" property...
    Hmmm....And with Nordyke eb banc...Maybe they will give us that back at the hearing.

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    Anyone want to meet up?

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    Looks like im working all day sat but i'll post if i can make it.
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    ok cool

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    wolfeinstein,

    How did the saturday meet go? I live in Newport Beach and have spoken to both NBPD and CMPD and they are very anti-carry and I have been told by both that if seen with a sidearm (unloaded) they will "pistol point".

    I would like to get involved here locally with you and others to change that.

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    Then we will definitely have to put Newport Beach on our short list for the monthly meetup venues.
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    coolusername2007,

    Where are these meets and can I participate?

    Also, its probably been done before but would it be wise to meet with these local PD's and educate them on UOC so that they are better prepared when encountering an UOC?

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    JAC wrote:
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    Where are these meets and can I participate?

    Also, its probably been done before but would it be wise to meet with these local PD's and educate them on UOC so that they are better prepared when encountering an UOC?

    JAC
    Yes you can participate. Everybody who's interested in UOC'ing is welcome, regardless if your carrying or not. In fact, if you have notyetopen carried these meets are great opportunities to learn before venturing out on your own.

    Just look for the thread titled 2nd UOC Monthly Meetup for more info and details.
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    demnogis wrote:
    Is Balboa pier municipal property? Keep in mind Orange County prohibits firearms possession on municipal or "public" property...
    demnogis

    Do you have a specific ordinance that you can quote?

    I have looked through both Orange County and Newport Beach Codes, and can find nothing that prohibits firearms possession on public or municipal properties.

    http://california.lp.findlaw.com/ca0.../municode.html

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    JAC wrote:
    ... I live in Newport Beach and have spoken to both NBPD and CMPD and they are very anti-carry and I have been told by both that if seen with a sidearm (unloaded) they will "pistol point".
    Can't think of a better reason to UOC in groups of 3 to 6, with at least one non-carrying member armed only with a video camera.

    Just completed my second groupUOC, starting with a leisurely stroll out on the Oceanside pier,complete with a professional and courteous12031 inspection by three of Oceanside's finest.

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    Awesome glad it went well! We should set up something for this sat!

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    Well, from the Members list, I count thirteen people, not including me and thee, who identify Orange County, or an Orange County city, as their "Location." Doubtless there are many, many more who left that field blank.

    I am not trying to be in charge of anything here, but it seems that the prudent thing to do would first be to contact these folks to see just how many are interested in a groupUOC event. Second would be to have a meeting, or series of meetings,to get aquainted,present ideal locations (proximity to K-12s, etc), discuss rules of conduct, etc.

    Doing something this coming Saturday may be a bit problematic for me. We have plenty of time to plan and do this right.

    I'm open to any and all suggestions.

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    I think this should be a regular weekly meeting instead 2-3times a year!

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    A ECNALG, I had said that recalling from something I read before. Quite possibly it may have applied just to parks and beaches. I can't recall exactly what the Ordinance is. If I was mistaken, I apologize! I could have mistaken it for an LA County Ordinance.

    I'll definitely have to try to make it to the next one!:celebrate

    Oh, I can definitely confirm that CMPD will "pistol point" if called out to you. If you are lucky they'll even bring out the M14s or AR15s
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    No apology necessary, demnogis. I just was not sure if the ordinance in question shows up in a section that I normally would not look. It certainly could be an L.A. ordinance that you are recalling.

    I have been assuming that by "pistol point," you mean that officers will draw their weapons on anyone UOCing, at any time,the simple act of UOC being the onlyprovocation. Is this correct?

    Despite Costa Mesa's own home-grown crime issues, it appears that an education in lawful UOCmay becalled for then. And I don't necessarily mean via a group public UOC event, but insteadby attending one or more city council meetings so as to educate both the city council and their employees, the city police department. I would think that the city council might be concerned about a substantial lawsuit not only for possible Fourth Amendment violations,but the horrific liability should a cop's drawn weapon "inadvertently" discharge, injuring or killing someone who's only offense was, well, no offense at all.

    Mayor Mansoor may be quite receptive to our line of reason.


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    I agree that CMPD and NBPD need education.

    You can read about my excessively long, drawn out detainment and 4A rights violation by the Costa Mesa Police Department here:

    http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum12/23167.html
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