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Yay Necro!
But I have a reason.
The Michigan bit with the porch and the raccoons has created a, probably bogus, rumbling about 'baiting the cops.'
As the cops themselves have been quotes in this same thread on the topic of 'being baited' I have to wonder, how does that work?
There seems to be a slight of hand at work with the word 'baiting.' As it is being referred to, it is the same thing as 'entrapment.'
An officer who is not a turd, won't be able to be 'baited.' 'Baiting' would only work on an Officer who already had intent and desire to do wrong. So, it really isn't baiting... Just like it isn't entrapment if you were going to commit the crime anyway...
Providing the Officer with an opportunity to show his true colors, whatever they may be, is not 'baiting.' Nor is it a bad thing to do, IMNSO. If there are cops out there who are just itching for a chance to attack someone whom they disagree with, and have no respect for the law/constitutional rights; they need to be outed ASAP.
These clowns in the cops forums are great examples. These freaks need to put their job where their mouth is. And OCers, I think, have a duty to give them a chance to step on their dicks. As the OC 'movement' grows we are finding the many subtle ways that some use to slander and undermine freedom in general. We've discovered that the 2a is a keystone, but doesn't stand alone. We're finding an assault on many rights for the 'crime' of having a right! those who agree with that kind of thiking are the ones who most desperately need to be dragged out of their places of hiding and thoroughly separated from their cash in court.
We shouldn't be hiding from 'the possibility of what people might think' in this situation any more than the more obvious refusal to 'be reasonable' and just give up the right to OC altogether. Why would you make that 'bold step' and refuse to take the next? Why would you defeat one lie, only to let others thrive? OC does not stand alone, it is interconnected with our other rights, just as they are to it.
Accusing OCers of baiting, is virtually an admission of criminal intent on their part. If we offer them the chance to be criminals, and they take it, well, I guess that is just what they are then, huh? If they were honorable and decent citizens themselves, they wouldn't even see chances to do wrong, because they wouldn't be looking for them! The 'bait' would be invisible. It works exactly like entrapment. We the OCers are not guilty of anything unless we convince them to do it. And we're doing no such thing.
The fact that an Officer sees that as 'bait' or refers to it as a challenge of any kind, is a sad statement of how corrupt their minds really are. Having them try to turn the issue on its ear and accuse us of wrongdoing, is some very old school propaganda that we should see right through. The fact that this kind of attitude survives in the LEO business should be very, VERY unsettling to any American, not just OCers.
Do we fall for the slight of hand when they say "You don't need a machine gun to hunt."? So why do some of us fall for the 'don't bait the cops' load of bull?
Nobody is baiting them. Even if I put on a t-shirt that says "I'm baiting the cops by OCing!" I'm still not actually baiting them, because it isn't bait to a legitimate officer anyway! It would not even be noticed by an officer unless he already had criminal intent and was looking for a target to attack.
Pardon my redundancy... Some heads are thick around here.
