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Congratulations. I remember the looks they gave me when I carried openly for the first time. :uhoh:
HAHA. That is very true. My first open carry was in Wally World on 79th and Peoria and I asked a friend that works there if he notices people carrying and he said "All the time" and the associates really do not care except the night stockers whom I have experienced some negative attention from. But I rarely see anyone else carrying.They stop when you open carry a second time though J/k
Welcome to the world of self protection. Yay!
There is no tactical element of surprise with CC. Surprise is an offensive tactic. You will always react to the offensive. The offense (BG) will always initiate the threat or attack. The BG will always have the element of surprise. You heard that crap from your CWP instructor didn't ya? They're in the business to 'sell'. It's in their interests to promote more CWP's.My first OC was in a QT on 7th St in Sunnyslope. At the time, I was nervous as hell, and to add, there were 3 LEO's inside. I went about my shopping, and while standing in line to checkout, one of the LEO's asked how I liked my XDM. He told me that that was his personal choice for carry himself. I must say, after that, i was far more relaxed about OC'ing.
I have noticed that when I OC, I am generally more polite and thoughtful of others
Now days I both OC and CC. I OC when in public places, but usually conceal when I really don't want the attention (like the city bus, and other places where if the crap hit the fan, I would like to retain the tactical element of surprise)
Although I strongly support OC here in AZ, I think having a CCW is good for several reasons: 1. The class is great for understanding what the laws in AZ are for carrying and use of force, and what the consequences are for violating them 2. Sometimes you just need to hide your iron, plain and simple.
I disagree with "No... you don't need to 'hide your iron'." I think there are times and places when it is a necessity. But this is an OC forum, so oh well.rmbrems wrote:There is no tactical element of surprise with CC. Surprise is an offensive tactic. You will always react to the offensive. The offense (BG) will always initiate the threat or attack. The BG will always have the element of surprise. You heard that crap from your CWP instructor didn't ya? They're in the business to 'sell'. It's in their interests to promote more CWP's.My first OC was in a QT on 7th St in Sunnyslope. At the time, I was nervous as hell, and to add, there were 3 LEO's inside. I went about my shopping, and while standing in line to checkout, one of the LEO's asked how I liked my XDM. He told me that that was his personal choice for carry himself. I must say, after that, i was far more relaxed about OC'ing.
I have noticed that when I OC, I am generally more polite and thoughtful of others
Now days I both OC and CC. I OC when in public places, but usually conceal when I really don't want the attention (like the city bus, and other places where if the crap hit the fan, I would like to retain the tactical element of surprise)
Although I strongly support OC here in AZ, I think having a CCW is good for several reasons: 1. The class is great for understanding what the laws in AZ are for carrying and use of force, and what the consequences are for violating them 2. Sometimes you just need to hide your iron, plain and simple.
No... you don't need to 'hide your iron'. It wasn't even an option in AZ until 1994. Concealed permits are a government contrivance to appease the anti's 'n the hoplophobes. It's another control mechanism. The free exercise of a Right does not require licence or permit. Yeah... I know... most of ya grew up bein' taught that...
gun = permit/license + registration + magical training + a 'Mother-May-I?' mentality.
NO! NO No No No NO!
'Care to elaborate on where 'n when? There are times where one need not be armed... true enough... but pray tell where/whenit'd be necessary tohide it? CC is even contrary to the original AZ Constitutional Convention.I disagree with "No... you don't need to 'hide your iron'." I think there are times and places when it is a necessity. But this is an OC forum, so oh well.
AZ Patriot wrote:'Care to elaborate on where 'n when? There are times where one need not be armed... true enough... but pray tell where/when it'd be necessary to hide it? CC is even contrary to the original AZ Constitutional Convention.I disagree with "No... you don't need to 'hide your iron'." I think there are times and places when it is a necessity. But this is an OC forum, so oh well.
Sometimes the snakes get loose... :what:I bet those churches can get rather rough.