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I may go, dependent on location and time.

Rebel, a positive event like this could be used as extra weight in your letter to the DEP. Media attention might be a good idea.

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Tucky wrote:

I may go, dependent on location and time.

Rebel, a positive event like this could be used as extra weight in your letter to the DEP. Media attention might be a good idea.

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Would love to have you show up Tucky. Hope you can make it once it gets rolling.

I am in the process of contacting several parks to discuss with rangers and see what response I get. Keeping notes. My timeframe and action items are to have the contacts all made, a letter written and updates made by next Tuesday.

Will keep everyone informed.

Rebel
American by birth, Southern by choice.

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fridaddy wrote:

There used to be a restriction on carrying in parks and national forest in FL even with a CCW. That law was repealed in 2006.

As far as any current administrative regulations, they are invalid under the preemption statute.

Call the state park service. Ask them whether you are allowed to carry in a state park. Get names of folks you talk to and let us know the results.


THIS POST IS FOR PURPOSE OF DISCUSSION ONLY. NO ATTORNEY CLIENT RELATIONSHIP IS INTENDED OR IMPLIED.

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Hello fridaddy!

I take it by your post you are an attorney. I just wanted you to know that I appreciate your stopping by and any pointers you can supply etc.

If I am successful in my efforts, I may have need to your services on a more long term basis. It would be really nice for the first few events to have counsel available should any issues arise. Specifically what I mean by this is that should an issue come up and we are asked to disarm and or dispurse, we would comply with these requests. However they would not be legal requests and we would need to do something about it after the fact.
Just like fighting a traffic ticket, very seldom is there any point in arguing with the officer at the scene. Never advisable IMO.

Subsequently, I am attempting to form a core group to move the OC issue through the legislative process. Definitely legal advise and opinions will be necessary at differing times through that process.

Please PM me with details on how to contact you in the future.

Rebel - Patriot
American by birth, Southern by choice.

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Hello. This thread intrigued me. I contacted the park service, and they responded with;


Dear M,

Thank you for your interest in Florida State Parks. Yes, firearms are allowed in state parks locked up in your vehicle or temporary housing. You can have the gun in your possession if you have a concealed weapons permit. You need to have your concealed weapons permit with you. You would also need to touch base with park staff to inform them of your permit and that you will be carrying within the park on your person.




Per Florida Administrative Code 62D-2.014(10):

(10) Hunting and Firearms. Hunting, trapping or the pursuit of wildlife is prohibited on all state park property, except in Reserves, as authorized by the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission. Weapons shall at all times be in possession of a responsible party or properly secured within or to a vehicle or temporary housing, which shall include motor homes, travel trailers, recreational vehicles, campers, tents, or other enclosed structures, while in state parks. Properly secured means the weapon shall be locked away and not accessible to minors, and if in a tent means the weapon shall be secured in a locked container. No person shall use or openly display in any state park weapons such as firearms of any type, air rifles, spring guns, cross bows, bows and arrows, gigs (except in areas where gigs may be legally used for saltwater fishing), sling shots, electronic weapons, devices which fire a dart or projectile, or any other forms of weapons or trapping devices potentially dangerous to wildlife or human safety except when such weapons or traps are used for resource management purposes as authorized in this subsection. Shooting weapons into park areas from beyond park boundaries is prohibited. The Division may authorize the control of nuisance animals and may remove all nuisance or exotic animals from parks by trapping and other necessary means for park resource management purposes. Such authorization shall be in the form of a letter of authorization, license, permit, or contract negotiated by the parties or made pursuant to an advertised bid by the Division. Authorization may be obtained in the same manner as stated in subsection 62D-2.013(7), F.A.C., herein.



Let me know if you have any further questions.



Sincerely,

Leylani Velez

Information Specialist

850-245-2157

[url]http://www.floridastateparks.org[/url]

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Florida Statutes allow a person to openly carry a handgun while "engaged in fishing, camping, or lawful hunting or going to or returning from a fishing, camping, or lawful hunting expedition. FS790.25(3)(h) / 790.053 What is the parks policy on this?



Email: DGO@daytonagunowners.com

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Now the preemption is an issue, and I contacted the Florida atty General today to ask for a clarification, but they were unwilling to do so. They instructed me to contact a general civil rights atty in my area and ask them. I have a friend that is the local prosecutor, and I will try to catch up with him in a few days to see if he can give me an answer, but my guess is that it will fall into the catagory of, yes, it is legal, yes the laws conflict, yes you will be arrested if you try it and yes you will have to battle it out in court - right or wrong.

The smart thing to do is to file a lawsuit and request clarification.

BUT, and this is a big but. Um, you can carry while fishing, and there are plenty of places to go fishing that are NOT state parks. This AM only covers state and federal parks. If you are, say, at the ocean, or on a river on private property, or on a roadway near a river, then I can't see you having a problem.



Oh!! one more thing. City parks would also not be included.

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I and a group of friends are planning a series of camping and fishing trips to various state parks. During these trips all members of my group will be openly carrying firearms on their persons both while camping and fishing as provided by Florida State Law Statute 790.25 subsection h.

I was quite perplexed and dismayed in researching Florida Parks to come across Florida Administrative Code 62D-2.014 (10)dated 2June2009 as published on the departments website, which clearly states "No person shall use or openly display in any state park weapons such as firearms of any type".

To my knowledge, in 2006 law was passed by the Florida Legislature which became effective 1 Oct 2006 which directed the DEP to come into compliance with all Florida regulations. Previously referenced Florida Statute 790.25 (h) allows Florida residents to openly carry firearms while engaged in camping, fishing, and hunting activities or in transit to and from those activities.

I would like the DEP's written assurances that myself, and my friends, can indeed openly carry firearms while engaged in these legal activities on State Parks properties and roadways.

I look forward to your reply and thank you in advance for your time spent on this matter.

Kind Regards

Submitted to Florida State Parks via email webform on
(http://www.floridastateparks.org/communications/feedback.cfm)
Thursday September 17, 2009 at 2:14 am

I will post their reply if and when I get it.

Rebel
American by birth, Southern by choice.

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rebel-patriot wrote:

I and a group of friends are planning a series of camping and fishing trips to various state parks. During these trips all members of my group will be openly carrying firearms on their persons both while camping and fishing as provided by Florida State Law Statute 790.25 subsection h.

I was quite perplexed and dismayed in researching Florida Parks to come across Florida Administrative Code 62D-2.014 (10)dated 2June2009 as published on the departments website, which clearly states "No person shall use or openly display in any state park weapons such as firearms of any type".

To my knowledge, in 2006 law was passed by the Florida Legislature which became effective 1 Oct 2006 which directed the DEP to come into compliance with all Florida regulations. Previously referenced Florida Statute 790.25 (h) allows Florida residents to openly carry firearms while engaged in camping, fishing, and hunting activities or in transit to and from those activities.

I would like the DEP's written assurances that myself, and my friends, can indeed openly carry firearms while engaged in these legal activities on State Parks properties and roadways.

I look forward to your reply and thank you in advance for your time spent on this matter.

Kind Regards

Submitted to Florida State Parks via email webform on
(http://www.floridastateparks.org/communications/feedback.cfm)
Thursday September 17, 2009 at 2:14 am

I will post their reply if and when I get it.

Rebel
American by birth, Southern by choice.

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And the reply from the state of florida Department of Environmental Protection State Parks Division is as follows:

Dear xxxxxxxxx,

Thank you for your interest in Florida State Parks.

No, you cannot openly display your firearms in state parks. Firearms are allowed in state parks locked up in your vehicle or temporary housing. You can have the gun in your possession if you have a concealed weapons permit and keep the weapon secure and concealed. You need to have your concealed weapons permit with you.

Below I have copied the FAC 62d-2.014 (10) that deals with state parks specifically and under that is the statute 790.25 you referenced in your e-mail inquiry. The statute states that you can “own and possess” not openly display your weapons. I also want to remind you that hunting or shooting your weapon is not allowed in state parks as referenced below.

You would also need to touch base with park staff to inform them of your permit and that you will be carrying within the park on your person.

Per Florida Administrative Code 62D-2.014(10):
(10) Hunting and Firearms. Hunting, trapping or the pursuit of wildlife is prohibited on all state park property, except in Reserves, as authorized by the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission. Weapons shall at all times be in possession of a responsible party or properly secured within or to a vehicle or temporary housing, which shall include motor homes, travel trailers, recreational vehicles, campers, tents, or other enclosed structures, while in state parks. Properly secured means the weapon shall be locked away and not accessible to minors, and if in a tent means the weapon shall be secured in a locked container. No person shall use or openly display in any state park weapons such as firearms of any type, air rifles, spring guns, cross bows, bows and arrows, gigs (except in areas where gigs may be legally used for saltwater fishing), sling shots, electronic weapons, devices which fire a dart or projectile, or any other forms of weapons or trapping devices potentially dangerous to wildlife or human safety except when such weapons or traps are used for resource management purposes as authorized in this subsection. Shooting weapons into park areas from beyond park boundaries is prohibited. The Division may authorize the control of nuisance animals and may remove all nuisance or exotic animals from parks by trapping and other necessary means for park resource management purposes. Such authorization shall be in the form of a letter of authorization, license, permit, or contract negotiated by the parties or made pursuant to an advertised bid by the Division. Authorization may be obtained in the same manner as stated in subsection 62D-2.013(7), F.A.C., herein.
Per Florida Statute: 790.25Lawful ownership, possession, and use of firearms and other weapons.--
(1)DECLARATION OF POLICY.--The Legislature finds as a matter of public policy and fact that it is necessary to promote firearms safety and to curb and prevent the use of firearms and other weapons in crime and by incompetent persons without prohibiting the lawful use in defense of life, home, and property, and the use by United States or state military organizations, and as otherwise now authorized by law, including the right to use and own firearms for target practice and marksmanship on target practice ranges or other lawful places, and lawful hunting and other lawful purposes.
(2)USES NOT AUTHORIZED.--
(a)This section does not authorize carrying a concealed weapon without a permit, as prohibited by ss. 790.01 and 790.02.
(b)The protections of this section do not apply to the following:
1.A person who has been adjudged mentally incompetent, who is addicted to the use of narcotics or any similar drug, or who is a habitual or chronic alcoholic, or a person using weapons or firearms in violation of ss. 790.07-790.115, 790.145-790.19, 790.22-790.24;
2.Vagrants and other undesirable persons as defined in [sup]1[/sup]s. 856.02;
3.A person in or about a place of nuisance as defined in s. 823.05, unless such person is there for law enforcement or some other lawful purpose.
(3)LAWFUL USES.--The provisions of ss. 790.053 and 790.06 do not apply in the following instances, and, despite such sections, it is lawful for the following persons to own, possess, and lawfully use firearms and other weapons, ammunition, and supplies for lawful purposes:
(a)Members of the Militia, National Guard, Florida State Defense Force, Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard, organized reserves, and other armed forces of the state and of the United States, when on duty, when training or preparing themselves for military duty, or while subject to recall or mobilization;
(b)Citizens of this state subject to duty in the Armed Forces under s. 2, Art. X of the State Constitution, under chapters 250 and 251, and under federal laws, when on duty or when training or preparing themselves for military duty;
(c)Persons carrying out or training for emergency management duties under chapter 252;
(d)Sheriffs, marshals, prison or jail wardens, police officers, Florida highway patrol officers, game wardens, revenue officers, forest officials, special officers appointed under the provisions of chapter 354, and other peace and law enforcement officers and their deputies and assistants and full-time paid peace officers of other states and of the Federal Government who are carrying out official duties while in this state;
(e)Officers or employees of the state or United States duly authorized to carry a concealed weapon;
(f)Guards or messengers of common carriers, express companies, armored car carriers, mail carriers, banks, and other financial institutions, while actually employed in and about the shipment, transportation, or delivery of any money, treasure, bullion, bonds, or other thing of value within this state;
(g)Regularly enrolled members of any organization duly authorized to purchase or receive weapons from the United States or from this state, or regularly enrolled members of clubs organized for target, skeet, or trap shooting, while at or going to or from shooting practice; or regularly enrolled members of clubs organized for modern or antique firearms collecting, while such members are at or going to or from their collectors' gun shows, conventions, or exhibits;
(h)A person engaged in fishing, camping, or lawful hunting or going to or returning from a fishing, camping, or lawful hunting expedition;
(i)A person engaged in the business of manufacturing, repairing, or dealing in firearms, or the agent or representative of any such person while engaged in the lawful course of such business;
(j)A person firing weapons for testing or target practice under safe conditions and in a safe place not prohibited by law or going to or from such place;
(k)A person firing weapons in a safe and secure indoor range for testing and target practice;
(l)A person traveling by private conveyance when the weapon is securely encased or in a public conveyance when the weapon is securely encased and not in the person's manual possession;
(m)A person while carrying a pistol unloaded and in a secure wrapper, concealed or otherwise, from the place of purchase to his or her home or place of business or to a place of repair or back to his or her home or place of business;
A person possessing arms at his or her home or place of business;
(o)Investigators employed by the several public defenders of the state, while actually carrying out official duties, provided such investigators:
1.Are employed full time;
2.Meet the official training standards for firearms established by the Criminal Justice Standards and Training Commission as provided in s. 943.12(5) and the requirements of ss. 493.6108(1)(a) and 943.13(1)-(4); and
3.Are individually designated by an affidavit of consent signed by the employing public defender and filed with the clerk of the circuit court in the county in which the employing public defender resides.
(p)Investigators employed by the capital collateral regional counsel, while actually carrying out official duties, provided such investigators:
1.Are employed full time;
2.Meet the official training standards for firearms as established by the Criminal Justice Standards and Training Commission as provided in s. 943.12(1) and the requirements of ss. 493.6108(1)(a) and 943.13(1)-(4); and
3.Are individually designated by an affidavit of consent signed by the capital collateral regional counsel and filed with the clerk of the circuit court in the county in which the investigator is headquartered.
(4)CONSTRUCTION.--This act shall be liberally construed to carry out the declaration of policy herein and in favor of the constitutional right to keep and bear arms for lawful purposes. This act is supplemental and additional to existing rights to bear arms now guaranteed by law and decisions of the courts of Florida, and nothing herein shall impair or diminish any of such rights. This act shall supersede any law, ordinance, or regulation in conflict herewith.
(5)POSSESSION IN PRIVATE CONVEYANCE.--Notwithstanding subsection (2), it is lawful and is not a violation of s. 790.01 for a person 18 years of age or older to possess a concealed firearm or other weapon for self-defense or other lawful purpose within the interior of a private conveyance, without a license, if the firearm or other weapon is securely encased or is otherwise not readily accessible for immediate use. Nothing herein contained prohibits the carrying of a legal firearm other than a handgun anywhere in a private conveyance when such firearm is being carried for a lawful use. Nothing herein contained shall be construed to authorize the carrying of a concealed firearm or other weapon on the person. This subsection shall be liberally construed in favor of the lawful use, ownership, and possession of firearms and other weapons, including lawful self-defense as provided in s. 776.012.
History.--s. 1, ch. 65-410; s. 32, ch. 69-216; s. 32, ch. 73-334; s. 2, ch. 77-302; s. 2, ch. 82-131; s. 15, ch. 83-167; ss. 45, 49, ch. 83-334; s. 32, ch. 84-258; s. 68, ch. 85-62; s. 5, ch. 85-332; s. 15, ch. 87-274; s. 2, ch. 87-537; s. 1, ch. 89-60; s. 8, ch. 90-364; s. 1, ch. 93-269; s. 7, ch. 93-416; s. 89, ch. 95-211; s. 1218, ch. 97-102; s. 110, ch. 2006-1; s. 2, ch. 2006-103.
[sup]1[/sup]Note.--Repealed by s. 3, ch. 72-133.
Let me know if you have any further questions.

Sincerely,
Leylani Velez
Information Specialist
850-245-2157
www.floridastateparks.org

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and my reply to them:

Dear Ms Valez,

Thank you for your quick reply to my previous question. However, I do wish to point out to you that within the Florida Statute you sent within your email, there is a discrepency between that statute and your reply.

Specifically, I am referencing the part of your reply which states "Below I have copied the FAC 62d-2.014 (10) that deals with state parks specifically and under that is the statute 790.25 you referenced in your e-mail inquiry. The statute states that you can “own and possess” not[/b] openly display your weapons. I also want to remind you that hunting or shooting your weapon is not allowed in state parks as referenced below. "
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As you will note in the opening statement of 790.25 it clearly states that "[/font]The provisions of ss. 790.053 and 790.06 do not apply in the following instances, and, despite such sections, it is lawful for the following persons to own, possess, and lawfully use firearms and other weapons, ammunition, and supplies for lawful purposes: (h)A person engaged in fishing, camping, or lawful hunting or going to or returning from a fishing, camping, or lawful hunting expedition;"
Florida statute 790.025 supercedes Florida statute 790.053 which states as follows "
[size="-1"]790.053 Open carrying of weapons.-- [/size]
[size="-1"](1)Except as otherwise provided by law and in subsection (2), it is unlawful for any person to openly carry on or about his or her person any firearm or electric weapon or device. [/size]
[size="-1"](2)A person may openly carry, for purposes of lawful self-defense: [/size]
[size="-1"](a)A self-defense chemical spray. [/size]
[size="-1"](b)A nonlethal stun gun or dart-firing stun gun or other nonlethal electric weapon or device that is designed solely for defensive purposes. [/size]
[size="-1"](3)Any person violating this section commits a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.[/size]"

As you can see, Statute 790.053 is superceded by 790.25 and as stated I and other Florida citizens are allowed to own, posses, and openly carry firearms while engaged in camping, fishing, and hunting activities.

Please be assured that at no time is it the intention of anyone to discharge said firearms or hunt within the State Park system.

In 2006, Florida HB 1029 was passed, signed by the Governor 7 June 2006 and went into effect 1 Oct 2006. While this bill specifically addressed the carrying of firearms in National Forests, it also addressed the issue of carrying firearms in State Parks. Specifically it states "The bill also directs the Department of Environmental Protection to adopt amendments to Rule 62D-2.014(10), F.A.C., to repeal the provision prohibiting persons from using, carrying, or possessing firearms in state parks."

Given these statement of facts, I again ask for the DEP's written assurances as previously requested.

If this matter requires escalation within the DEP, I would appreciate notification of same and any additional contacts within the DEP as may be necessary.

Again, I sincerely appreciate the your time and thank you in advance. I eagerly await your reply.

Sincerely,

xxxxxxx

More to follow as it develops

Rebel
American by birth, Southern by choice.

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Good deal, I wonder what they're going to say?

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77zach wrote:

Good deal, I wonder what they're going to say?

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You may want to point them to this:

ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURE ACT

120.536 Rulemaking authority; repeal; challenge.--
(1)A grant of rulemaking authority is necessary but not sufficient to allow an agency to adopt a rule; a specific law to be implemented is also required. An agency may adopt only rules that implement or interpret the specific powers and duties granted by the enabling statute. No agency shall have authority to adopt a rule only because it is reasonably related to the purpose of the enabling legislation and is not arbitrary and capricious or is within the agency's class of powers and duties, nor shall an agency have the authority to implement statutory provisions setting forth general legislative intent or policy. Statutory language granting rulemaking authority or generally describing the powers and functions of an agency shall be construed to extend no further than implementing or interpreting the specific powers and duties conferred by the enabling statute.
(2)The Administrative Procedures Committee or any substantially affected person may petition an agency to repeal any rule, or portion thereof, because it exceeds the rulemaking authority permitted by this section. Not later than 30 days after the date of filing the petition if the agency is headed by an individual, or not later than 45 days if the agency is headed by a collegial body, the agency shall initiate rulemaking proceedings to repeal the rule, or portion thereof, or deny the petition, giving a written statement of its reasons for the denial.
(3)Nothing in this section shall be construed to change the legal status of a rule that has otherwise been judicially or administratively determined to be invalid.

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Actually, I spoke with someone today that said that hte entire rule may be a mistake in itself. See, 790.25 states,



(4)CONSTRUCTION.--This act shall be liberally construed to carry out the declaration of policy herein and in favor of the constitutional right to keep and bear arms for lawful purposes. This act is supplemental and additional to existing rights to bear arms now guaranteed by law and decisions of the courts of Florida, and nothing herein shall impair or diminish any of such rights. This act shall supersede any law, ordinance, or regulation in conflict herewith.


It says it all right there. Shrugs. The lady I spoke with said that the legislature would have to address this. Two laws cannot conflict like this.



OON AAnother NNote!

Open CAarry while fishing, in a city owned park, is specifically covered.

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The reply from the DEP division of state parks today was:

Mr. xxxxx,

I have sent your inquiry onto the Division of Law Enforcement and our Office of General Counsel just to make sure we are giving you an accurate interpretation of the law. They may not get back to me until Monday or Tuesday but as soon as they give me their response I will get in contact with you or they may contact you directly.

Thank you for your patience.

Sincerely,
Leylani Velez

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GIdeon_70 wrote:

Actually, I spoke with someone today that said that hte entire rule may be a mistake in itself. See, 790.25 states,



(4)CONSTRUCTION.--This act shall be liberally construed to carry out the declaration of policy herein and in favor of the constitutional right to keep and bear arms for lawful purposes. This act is supplemental and additional to existing rights to bear arms now guaranteed by law and decisions of the courts of Florida, and nothing herein shall impair or diminish any of such rights. This act shall supersede any law, ordinance, or regulation in conflict herewith.


It says it all right there. Shrugs. The lady I spoke with said that the legislature would have to address this. Two laws cannot conflict like this.



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Open CAarry while fishing, in a city owned park, is specifically covered.

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Hello Gideon!

I am sorry but perhaps I missed something? Which two laws are in conflict? For my posts, the law is quite clear. However it is the regulations as set forth by the DEP that is in conflict with the law as I read it.

Take into account HB1029 which was enacted into law 1 Oct 2006 which directed the DEP specifically to address the sections of their regulations addressing firearms to bring it in line with Florida Statutes.

Obviously this has been lax, and more obviously there has not been up till now a group of citizens willing to challenge this.

I am attempting to address that issue as well. If you have time go check out some of the lengthy discussions taking place here in the FLorida section in various threads.

Hope to see more of you in the near futire.

Rebel
American by birth, Southern by choice.

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This speaks volumes of how little interest their has been until now in oc here. The fact that such a contradiction could last for so long unchallenged is amusing.

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Rebel,

You're doing some very nice work there. Those letters are perfect. The tone and manner of the correspondence is very professional and it would appear that you are making progress with this issue.

Well done.

AD

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Good show Florida! You've got the ball in play!

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Cato, that is hilarious. What a little sheeple that tattle it. Keep up the good work. It's nice to know some people are toughing it out in occupied territory, fighting for liberty and justice.

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"The first bump in the road to an OC Weekend.

In beginning to scout out places for an event I decided to begin by looking at Florida State Parks. I found that "alcholic beverages and firearms are prohibited" at ALL Florida State Parks. "



Send every park you go to with these signs a letter referencing the 2006 rule change and require them to remove the signs as they are "false and misleading".

Otherwise, people seeing the signs and not knowing the law will be fooled by these deceptive signs.

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marrandy wrote:

"The first bump in the road to an OC Weekend.

In beginning to scout out places for an event I decided to begin by looking at Florida State Parks. I found that "alcholic beverages and firearms are prohibited" at ALL Florida State Parks. "



Send every park you go to with these signs a letter referencing the 2006 rule change and require them to remove the signs as they are "false and misleading".

Otherwise, people seeing the signs and not knowing the law will be fooled by these deceptive signs.

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Hi marrandy,

Hopefully you read the rest of the thread after that post as well. I am actively persuing this with the DEP division of State Parks. At this time I am waiting to hear from them as they have escalated the issue with their attorney as well as the law enforcement division of DEP. If I have not heard back from them by this time tomorrow night/Friday morning I am going to send word asking for a specific update to the issue.

I personally think it is a more productive course of action to get the overall body to recognize the law, admit the law, then enforce the law to the individual parks rather than go after each and every park individually. Hence my course of action. I will continue to keep this thread updated with progress as it is made.


Rebel
American by birth, Southern by choice.

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OK so I decided to shoot off a query a little earlier than I said last night. LOL Here is what I sent.

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"Dear Ms. Valez,

I was wondering what the status is of the issue we have been discussing? At this time, I have not received any other correspondence on this issue.

Kind Regards,"

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Will keep everyone in the loop one step at a time.

Rebel
American by birth, Southern by choice

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and a fairly quick reply back........
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Good morning Mr. xxxxxx,


I am sorry it is taking longer than anticipated, unfortunately when we get multiple offices involved the process isn’t as quick. I found out that the response will be coming from Chief Griffin from the Florida Division of Law Enforcement and should be sent directly to you shortly.

Sincerely,
Leylani Velez
Information Specialist
850-245-2157
www.floridastateparks.org
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Again, will keep everyone updated as things progress.

Rebel
American by birth, Southern by choice