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    A guy I work with from GA is thinking of selling me one of his guns. I live in VA. What is required for a transfer of ownership?

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    proud_to_serveUSAF wrote:
    A guy I work with from GA is thinking of selling me one of his guns. I live in VA. What is required for a transfer of ownership?
    Has to go through a friendly neighborhoodFFLin VA.

    Need to fill out a Form 4473 and a NICS background check.

    Whatcha getting?

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    Isn't the occasional private transaction between individuals specifically permitted in law?

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    old dog wrote:
    Isn't the occasional private transaction between individuals specifically permitted in law?
    Sure.

    But interstate transfers of handguns require the 4473/NICS background check.

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    How does private sale work for DC where they are allowed to buy from other states?
    Or do they go by the "There are no guns in private hands, so there can be no private sale" route.
    Shouldn't effect me, but if I find a good piece while on the mall protesting, I don't
    want to step on any toes. Get people from same state to sell guns to each
    other on the mall, now that would be a great way to protest in april.
    A million gun sale loophole march, now that would send the white house running
    for the hills.
    I could live with calling it the "Thank Obama for allowing carry in fed parks rally".
    Now to get OC and CC in the district laws so you can carry on the mall as well.

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    So this deal got put on hold for a little bit, but now it's back on. The owner resides in GA, I live in VA, we are going to be in NC when I purchase the gun/work with him. So do I have to have him ship it to an FFL dealer or do I purchase it through him and take it to an FFL dealer to do paperwork? How does that work?

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    He needs to either Fed Ex/UPS or deliver it to Va. A NC FFL cannot transfer for another state.

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    NavyLT wrote:
    proud_to_serveUSAF wrote:
    So this deal got put on hold for a little bit, but now it's back on. The owner resides in GA, I live in VA, we are going to be in NC when I purchase the gun/work with him. So do I have to have him ship it to an FFL dealer or do I purchase it through him and take it to an FFL dealer to do paperwork? How does that work?
    He has to deliver the gun to an FFL for transfer to you. A NC FFL may very well be able to do the transfer, but they will probably tell you that an FFL transfer is not required because FFLs tend only to know the little bit of the law that their BATFE agents tell them and is just enough to keep them from legal troubles.

    Nah. Has to be the transferee's home state, NLT.

    Buyer home state FFL is the choke point.





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    NavyLT wrote:
    HankT wrote:
    NavyLT wrote:
    proud_to_serveUSAF wrote:
    So this deal got put on hold for a little bit, but now it's back on. The owner resides in GA, I live in VA, we are going to be in NC when I purchase the gun/work with him. So do I have to have him ship it to an FFL dealer or do I purchase it through him and take it to an FFL dealer to do paperwork? How does that work?
    He has to deliver the gun to an FFL for transfer to you. A NC FFL may very well be able to do the transfer, but they will probably tell you that an FFL transfer is not required because FFLs tend only to know the little bit of the law that their BATFE agents tell them and is just enough to keep them from legal troubles.

    Nah. Has to be the transferee's home state, NLT.

    Buyer home state FFL is the choke point.



    I'll tell you what. I'll back my statement up with statute quotation and challenge you to back yours up with a statute quotation. My statute quotation is 18 USC 922(b)(3). What's yours?

    If a VA FFL can accept the rifle FROM an out of state source, then what prevents a NC FFL from accepting the rifle FROM an out of state source?

    Once the rifle is accepted by the FFL, what prevents the FFL from acting under the 18 USC 922(b)(3) exception to transfer it to a VA resident? Hmmmm?
    Hmm, is it a rifle or handgun?

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    nope, its a handgun. but i spoke w/ a gun shop in NC and i explained everything and they told me it should be fine. but just to be safe, i think i might just have it shipped to my guy in VA. lol

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    iirc you cant do a handgun transfer out of state... he just need to mail it directly to your FFL back home,....

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    NavyLT wrote:
    There is ONE exception. If the seller or giver DIES and you are part of the estate and you inherit the handgun.
    Hopefully that doesn't happen. All this questioning and then my supervisor suddenly croaking... Might not look to good for me. lol.

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