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Thread: Madison 911 call which led to disorderly conduct charge did not report disorderly conduct

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    Oddly he asked if there was a "concealed" handgun law and then went on to describe a rather large gun on his hip. That does not sound concealed to me. So the dispatcher was asked a question about a law that did not even apply to the person he was calling about.

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    lockman wrote:
    Oddly he asked if there was a "concealed" handgun law and then went on to describe a rather large gun on his hip. That does not sound concealed to me. So the dispatcher was asked a question about a law that did not even apply to the person he was calling about.
    That's Wisconsin.

    LEO comes to investigate this for no valid reason, why? In Racine, somebody calls in about a Raccoon Shooting and a guy gets kidnapped from his home by LEO. Both have NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ORIGINAL CALL.

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    Great to hear "Ryan" is asking the right question.

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    Who is the Mr. Davis they refer two twice in that article?

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    Seems the dispatch community needs a law refresher course.

    They seem to correctly know that there is no law allowing CC but are ignorant to the fact that OC is legal.

    Call should have ended with

    Ryan-- a gentleman walked past me with a rather large gun attached to his hip

    Dispatch-- Sir.. we don't allow CC in this state but he is allowed to OC a gun. Is he waving it around or threatening anyone?

    Ryan--No, he's just walking down the sidewalk.

    Dispatch--Is the man doing anything else but walking normally down the sidewalk?

    Ryan--No, he's just walking

    Dispatch--Thanks for the call but this man is doing nothing illegal, have a nice day...click.

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    If the caller had asked the dispatcher "Is there a law on the books that allows a person to eat pretzles while drinking a Dr. Pepper?" the dispatcher would have had to say, "No, there is no such law on the books."

    Would this have caused the police to be dispatched for a man with a snack call?

    Laws only make things illegal, they don't make thing legal.



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    MadisonRebel wrote:
    Who is the Mr. Davis they refer two twice in that article?
    typo, now fixed.

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    lockman wrote:
    Oddly he asked if there was a "concealed" handgun law and then went on to describe a rather large gun on his hip.
    Yeah, a lot of people refer to any carry of aconcealable gun is "concealed cary" or use that term as the most handy one they can think of.



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    These questions should be brought up to the dispatch supervisors. After all the dispatchers are really wasting a lot of officers time and tax payers money by sending an officer to the scene of "NO" crime.

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