Peninsula Patriots Meet-up tomorrow!!

VCDL President wrote:

The comments that trouble me above, besides Tom's, are those who seem to be now cubbyholing the whole Tea Party movement based on one person's position. :banghead:

Anti-gunners have been doing that to gun owners for years. Some crazy with a gun kills a bunch of people and the anti-gunners then try to paint all gun owners as criminal-wannabes just waiting to cause even more mayhem. That is wrong and unfair and we hate being painted with the same brush as a Cho or Charles Manson.

Let's NOT do the same thing to the Tea Party attendees and the leadership of other Tea Party groups.

Tom made some really bigoted, condescending statements that, besides surprising the hell our of me, have made many justifiably angry with him. That's fine. He's a big boy and is responsible for what he says and does.

But don't hold all the other Tea Party members and leaders accountable for what Tom said.

If the leadership of the Peninsula Patriots agrees with Tom's statements, then hold the leadership of that group responsible. Let's avoid overreacting or over generalizing on this. I repeat that the average tea party attendee is our ally and doesn't share Tom's positions. Yes, some attendees are anti-gun (Tom said he lost a few people because of guns), but very, very, very few percentage wise. And those that you lose over not liking our right to keep and bear arms are not a real loss at all. I think they walked into the Tea Party movement by mistake, with no concept of the big picture and no interest in seeing it.

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As usual, the voice of reason. My most offensive and broad posts have been removed.

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The Peninsula Patriots is a young, and still fragile, conservative movement.. We have already lost a few members who are afraid that we are becoming too vocal about the need to be prepared to use firearms, if necessary, to protect our freedoms.

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The Peninsula Patriots is a young, and still fragile, conservative movement.. We have already lost a few members who are afraid that we are becoming too vocal about the need to be prepared to use firearms, if necessary, to protect our freedoms.

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Oh really? This guy says that he's law enforcement and then says he's lost members because he preaches his followers to be prepared to "use firearms"?

STAY AWAY FROM THIS ASSHAT AND HIS ILK! HE'SAN AGENT PROVOCATEUR! PATRIOT MY ASS!

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Tom Robinson has just dug *himself* into a really deep hole with his rant above. (Bubba Ron did a good job in tearing the rant apart and I won't bother with my own analysis.)

In my fairly extensive experience with political events in VA, his fears about the press responding negatively to gun owners at such events have no merit. I have been to many such events open carrying, with no negative comments about the guns there.

VCDL EM Patricia Webb gave a great talk on guns at a Tea Party in Lynchburg a few days ago and was met with nothing but loud applause.:celebrate I wasn't surprised at all and neither was anyone else I know who has been to these events.

The comments that trouble me above, besides Tom's, are those who seem to be now cubbyholing the whole Tea Party movement based on one person's position. :banghead:

Let's NOT do the same thing to the Tea Party attendees and the leadership of other Tea Party groups.

But don't hold all the other Tea Party members and leaders accountable for what Tom said.

If the leadership of the Peninsula Patriots agrees with Tom's statements, then hold the leadership of that group responsible. Let's avoid overreacting or over generalizing on this. I repeat that the average tea party attendee is our ally and doesn't share Tom's positions. Yes, some attendees are anti-gun (Tom said he lost a few people because of guns), but very, very, very few percentage wise. And those that you lose over not liking our right to keep and bear arms are not a real loss at all. I think they walked into the Tea Party movement by mistake, with no concept of the big picture and no interest in seeing it.

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Good Evening Everyone,

I just joined the forum a few minutes ago so as to respond to your comments. I enjoyed reading them.

The property upon which the Peninsula Patriots Rally was held is owned by me. I gave permission for the VCDL members and anyone else wishing to carry a weapon to do so. I even gave permission for Class III. I had hoped the members would take advantage of the range I have at the rear of the farm. This information is provided so that there will be no misunderstanding as to what permissions were granted. It is because of the 2nd Amendment that we are able to exercise the 1st.

Also, the quote about "gun toten rednecks" most assuredly did not come from me. Whoever attributed that to me is kindly requested to tell the Old Virginia News to amend their article.

I also would like for all of you to know that when the leadership approached me to ask the VCDL members to cover or remove their weapons, I reminded them that only 20 percent of the colonists fought in or supported the Revolution. We could stand to loose a few members of Peninsula Patriots rather than request Constitutional supporters to remove or stow their sidearms. My one vote did not carry the the question.

I would like to take this opportunity to again give a big THANKS to Philip and the rest of the VCDL members that came to the rally. Philip is an inspirational speaker!

David C. Davis
Onemo, Va.

P. S. To MuddyTires.....Yep, I own a pair of White "Guinea" Boots. Our land is so low in Mathews we need them when we assist the Coast Guard to set channel markers in our pastures after a storm. I do not, however wear them to Wal-Mart. My wife and I prefer Nordstroms' or Saks.

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Good Evening Everyone,

I just joined the forum a few minutes ago so as to respond to your comments. I enjoyed reading them.....

.....I would like to take this opportunity to again give a big THANKS to Philip and the rest of the VCDL members that came to the rally. Philip is an inspirational speaker!

David C. Davis
Onemo, Va.

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Tom Robinson has just dug *himself* into a really deep hole with his rant above.

Tom made some really bigoted, condescending statements that, besides surprising the hell our of me, have made many justifiably angry with him. That's fine. He's a big boy and is responsible for what he says and does.

But don't hold all the other Tea Party members and leaders accountable for what Tom said.

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VCDL President wrote:

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Tom Robinson has just dug *himself* into a really deep hole with his rant above.

Tom made some really bigoted, condescending statements that, besides surprising the hell our of me, have made many justifiably angry with him. That's fine. He's a big boy and is responsible for what he says and does.

But don't hold all the other Tea Party members and leaders accountable for what Tom said.

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I am really biting my tongue - will reserve judgment for now.

I see the Tea Party movement as being good and of a like mind, BUT bias comments like this could seriously effect the relationship.

Mutual understanding/cooperation is not a one way street. Never, never speak condescendingly to a friend.

Yata hey

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hey ron i'm with you. i didn't have to read very carefully to detect the lack of understanding in the letter and the poor attempt at relatively comparative scenarios.
"You may have a fishing license, but do you feel compelled to carry your rod and reel to the movies?" You might carry your rod and reel should you think there might be a largemouth in the theater. what a rediculous comparison. in addition, all of those present my not have a concealed carry permit. are they supposed to come unprotected to this event.
it reads strange to me that he seems to try to encourage the movement but then discourage the folks from excersizing there freedom.

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