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    Howdy!

    I thought I would put together 2 comprehensive lists of businesses that DO and DO-NOT want to have us as customers. They are Google-Powered Lists, and keep their own stats. When the either list gets to be 25 or so long, I will make a custom map that SHOWS you where these places are.

    The only thing I ask is that the places you list; you have actual first hand knowledge of their firearms policy. Please don't post somewhere that your brother's friend's girlfriend's uncle went to a fews months back. Money talks, and if their name is on the black list- they wont be getting any of mine. Thats why I ask that you be honest about who you list. These are tough economic times, and I'd hate to unnecessarily hurt a business financially, but on the same note, I WANT to support businesses that support the 2A.

    Here are the lists:

    Click here to add to the PRO-GUN Business List: http://tinyurl.com/yesgunhere

    Click here to add to theNO-GUN Business List: http://tinyurl.com/nogunshere

    Thanks for the help!

    Carry on!

    Update: Here are the results of the lists (Updated in real-time):

    PRO-GUN RESULTS: http://tinyurl.com/klngb4
    NO-GUN RESULTS: http://tinyurl.com/my5ec9

    If anyone knows of other forums elsewhere where this list would be useful, or can think of additional information to aggregate, please post a reply!

    Another update:
    Note about new bar carry law:

    In order for a "No Firearms Allowed" sign to have legal force of law, it MUST be posted NEXT to the LIQUOR LICENSE. If you are posting a biz to the black list, please verify that the business is legally posting the sign, not just a sign by the door. Remember, you can legally carry into the business to verify, but must comply thereafter. (As for me and mine, if i verify they post a no carry sign- they need not worry- i wont ever be back.)

    Carry on!

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    I should also add a BIG THANK YOU to everyone who helps contribute to the lists!

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    Really nice work!

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    Thanks! As we are quickly approaching 25 in both lists, i'm going to go ahead and start mapping them.

    Also, if anyone has and thoughts/comments about the list- please post!

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    I dont understand the people who put that they CC in these businesses and the business has no problem. IN theory, the business may have no idea whatsoever.


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    Pace wrote:
    I dont understand the people who put that they CC in these businesses and the business has no problem. IN theory, the business may have no idea whatsoever.
    The idea with following that data is to let you know, as a reader, how reliable that data may be. Since many people both open and conceal- I want to track how they were carrying when they report if a biz is friendly or not.

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    add the Target on ray and the I-10 to the black list, they do not allow open carry
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    really? iv OCed in that target without a problem. who told you they dont allow it, manager or employee?

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    Target's official policy AFAIK is NO WEAPONS, nationally. I open carry in some, but mainly CC

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    manager said
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    Does anyone have any info on the policy for open or CC at Marie Calendar's? I can't hardly drive past without stopping by. Tks.

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    What would be great is if the list could be sorted alphabetically. As it gets bigger, it would be great to be able to more easily find a specific business.

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    Slayer of Paper wrote:
    What would be great is if the list could be sorted alphabetically. As it gets bigger, it would be great to be able to more easily find a specific business.
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    If there are IHOPs with no firearms signs, they are violating corporate policy.

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    Pace wrote:
    If there are IHOPs with no firearms signs, they are violating corporate policy.
    The one on Gilbert and Warner has a no firearms sign.

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    Pace wrote:
    If there are IHOPs with no firearms signs, they are violating corporate policy.
    All the IHOP's in my area have signs. I think a lot of IHOP's are franchised, so it would probably be up to the francishee.

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    The IHOP in Prescott Valley too, has a no weapons sign.
    http://arizonagunowners.com - The best AZ gun board around!

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    Hi,

    At lunch at Blanco at La Encantada today, I noticed "no firearms" posted. I asked the manager if the policy was due to La Encantada's (which is posted no firearms for the whole mall) or due to restaurant chain corporate policy.

    When the restaurant was choosing a location to open last year, firearms were prohibited at all alcohol-serving restaurants, so I figure if the policy was imposed by La Encantada, I wouldn't hold it against the restaurant too much.

    However, the restaurant's manager told me he did not know La Encantada is posted, and that their policy is a Blanco corporate policy.

    Take care,

    Eric

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    Quick poll: ANyone interested in a iPhone/iPod app that has this data? If there is enough interest, i'll write one.

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    cabellas had a listing for a firearms "greeter",duties were to make sure weapons are unloaded and escort customer to guns department...sounds anti to me but i live to far south to go see for myself does anyone know?

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    Note about new bar carry law:

    in order for a "No Firearms Allowed" sign to have legal force of law, it MUST be posted NEXT to the LIQUOR LICENSE. If you are posting a biz to the black list, please verify that the business is legally posting the sign, not just a sign by the door. Remember, you can legally carry into the business to verify, but must comply thereafter. (As for me and mine, if i verify they post a no carry sign- they need not worry- i wont ever be back.)

    Carry on!

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    You might also add Churchill's and Gallagher's in Chandler (Warner and Alma School) to the list. Both were confirmed to have the new signage posted (by the door, no confirmation of whether posting by the liquor license though) as of at least Sept 29th.


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    More to add:
    Mesa - Also add Macayo's in Mesa (NW corner of Alma School and Guadalupe), Native New Yorker (kitty corner to Macayo's SE corner), and Serrano's (same, SE corner of Alma School and Guadalupe Rd).

    No signage visible (that I saw) at Toby Keith's bar at Riverview in Mesa, nor at Dave's there.


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    Thanks for the updates, but- all you need to do to add to the lists is click on the link on the 1st page of this thread- and you can add as many as you want! Thanks!

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    These lists are good in one way but may cause a lot of people to not go to the no gun establishments and therefore not state their displeasure with the rule.

    I suggest those of you that would have taken your business to a no gun vendor if their policy was different make at least one trip and advise the manager of your feelings (respectfuly).

    If they remain unaware of the potential business lost they will most likely not reconsider their position.

    Restaurants are the most likely to listen in my opinion.
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