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Pace wrote:
ASU claims it is illegal to carry on college grounds. Is this correct? I just read another post that says its not illegal, and they carry at ASU?
http://www.asu.edu/aad/manuals/pdp/pdp201-05.html
Lets take a look at the ARS Statutes ASU is citing:
1.) ARS 13-2911:
http://www.azleg.state.az.us/ars/13/02911.htm Interference with or disruption of an educational institution.
How it applies (or rather does not apply):
1. Intentionally, knowingly or recklessly interfering with or disrupting the normal operations of an educational institution (...by threat of physical damage to people, property, etc)
2. Intentionally or knowingly entering or remaining on the property of any educational institution for the purpose of interfering with the lawful use of the property or in any manner as to deny or interfere with the lawful use of the property by others
3. Intentionally or knowingly refusing to obey a lawful order given pursuant to subsection C of this section. (which says the the chief administrator can ask you to leave if he or his agent *thinks* that you are up to something that *might* be disruptive)- Is carrying a gun disruptive? If you are a leftist/hippie gun-control advocating sissy, yes- it likely is. Which may mean that if a professor sees one- they will freak.
Moral of ARS 13-2911: Conceal your weapon. And for the love of pete, don't get made.
The second statue is
http://www.azleg.state.az.us/ars/13/03101.htm Definitions. It Defines what weapons, etc. are. If you are unsure what a weapon is, I suggest you leave this site, and go to pbskids.org. You are clearly at the wrong website.
The Third ARS they cite: ARS 13-3102
[url]http://www.azleg.state.az.us/ars/13/03102.htm [/url]: Misconduct involving weapons; defenses; classification; definitions.
ARS 13-3102 is DEFIANTLY a code section that every AZ gun owner should be familiar with. I'd like to draw your attention to sub-section L 3-4 which reads,
"3. "School" means a public or nonpublic kindergarten program, common school or high school.
4. "School grounds" means in, or on the grounds of, a school."
Please note that section 3 DOES NOT INCLUDE UNIVERSITIES AND OR COLLEGES, PUBLIC OR PRIVATE. So, 13-3102 does not apply to lawful carry of a weapon on ASU Campus.
The 4th section ASU cites is: ARS 13–3102 (A) (10) to 13–3103
http://www.azleg.state.az.us/ars/13/03102.htm
Ok, "10. Unless specifically authorized by law, entering any public establishment or attending any public event and carrying a deadly weapon on his person after a reasonable request by the operator of the establishment or the sponsor of the event or the sponsor's agent to remove his weapon and place it in the custody of the operator of the establishment or the sponsor of the event for temporary and secure storage of the weapon pursuant to section 13-3102.01; or"
My problem here is, WEAPON STORAGE. Does ASU have temporary weapon storage? Im not sure. But, for me: I refer to subsection C.4, "4. A person specifically licensed, authorized or permitted pursuant to a statute of this state or of the United States."
CCW anyone?
The moral of my story: If you have a CCW and exercise it lawfully, You have not broken any of the aforementioned laws.
BUT
If caught you risk weapon forfeiture- and if you are a student or faculty, suspension, expulsion, or a fine as pursuant to the Arizona Board of Regent's Rules. (emphasis on the word RULES- not LAWS)
If you chose to carry at ASU, U of A, or any other university or college in AZ, be aware of the rules and laws and their associated penalties for breaking them.
