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mrbsox wrote:
suntzu wrote:
Task Force 16 wrote:
If you're on foot and OC, LEO isn't going to have to ask if you are armed. Altough they may ask if you have a HCP. So far, I haven't had a LEO ask to see my HCP.
If you're pulled over in a traffic stop, no, you don't have to tell the officer that you are armed, but if you have been issued a HCP he'll find out when he runs your DL. Might as well letthem know right off so there's no surprises.
Just because you have a permit, does not mean you have a gun.
even if you have a gun in your vehicle, you are under absolutely no obligation to tell them about it. Even if they ask you point blank if you have a gun, you are not obligated to tell them--you can simply say refuse to answer it. If you do--also refuse to consent to any search if they ask for it. You can have a gun in your car without a permit as long as it is unloaded and the ammunition is in another area of the car that is inaccessible to you at the time. At least that is how I understand things in this state.
if they get you out of your car--make sure all of your doors are locked, and refuse to voluntarily give them the keys.
All of the above does sound to be in line with the 'letter of the law',,,
but, IMO, why would you want to make any LEOs job tougher on you. It would seem to me that any time you become un-cooperative, you are raising suspinsion, and the possibility of 'probable cause'... another letter of the law..
Simply put--and I'm by no means being an a__ho*e...but, my job isn't to make their job easy. That is what the Russians had to do every time they were told to BOHICA.
We have no obligation to answer any questions beyond those necessary to identify us when RAS or PC exist, unless you are driving, in which you are required to produce a driver license.
All of this will almost without a doubt be on audio--as I will have at least one on my person and another running in the car to record the conversation for my protection, and to make any future litigation and official complaint easier.
We have no obligation to answer any questions regardless of what they tell us. It isn't hindering, it isn't impeding--it is exercising your Constitutionally protected rights--and if we let them intimidate us--which many of them love to do--then they win. Intimidation, harassment, outright lying and bluffing can only work as long as we allow it to. We also should never voluntarily consent to any search of our person or belongings--if they have to ask, then they have no reason to search.
Remember---most of the time the police are fishing when they stop you. They are wanting to find a reason to take you to jail. They are not your friend in any form or fashion and IMO cannot be trusted. What you don't say--can't be used against you.
As for refusing to answer questions giving them RAS or PC--I'd like to see how my refusal to answer their questions can make them believe I am committing, about to commit or have already committed a crime, considering again that you have no obligation to speak to them.
If we refuse to stand up for our rights, then our rights will go the way of the dodo bird.