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    What Wisconsin supporters of the 2nd Admendment are up against:

    http://www.waveedfund.org/

    Join an organization that supports the 2nd Admendment and theStateConstitution rights to firearms now ifyou have not so. The attached hearing list shows the organizations that will lobby against anyrelaxation of Wisconsin firearm laws.


    When in danger you can dial 911 and hope for the police to arrive a few minutes later armed with guns.
    Why do police carry guns?

    The Joyce Foundation funded firearm control empire:
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    "Everything that we see is a shadow cast by that which we do not see." - Martin Luther King Jr.

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    This is but 1 organization which is bringing in ALOT of cash. Just "joining an organization" is not enough. That is why I believe we need a new unbrella group in WI to fight against WAVE and the other groups who are working against us. Don't forget those who have names which sound like they are on our side but only exist to line the pockets of those who run them.

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    Woah man, that site suks the big bean pole. Some real BS on it, super thick.

    Caution: Reading that site might just piss you off.

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    There is not much correlation between gun restrictions and crime rate, contrary to what WAVE thinks. DC had a complete gun ban (until very recently ), but their murder rate is way higher than the rest of the country. IL, which has the next best thing to a gun ban (no carry) has a violent crime rate over twice WI's, which is the only other state that completely bans concealed carry.

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    Interceptor_Knight wrote:
    This is but 1 organization which is bringing in ALOT of cash. Just "joining an organization" is not enough. That is why I believe we need a new unbrella group in WI to fight against WAVE and the other groups who are working against us. Don't forget those who have names which sound like they are on our side but only exist to line the pockets of those who run them.
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    NRA, AACFI, WIpped Pats - in it for the money. PHUI!!

    Indiscriminate tolerance of these is divisive.

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    J.Gleason wrote:
    Interceptor_Knight wrote:
    This is but 1 organization which is bringing in ALOT of cash. Just "joining an organization" is not enough. That is why I believe we need a new unbrella group in WI to fight against WAVE and the other groups who are working against us. Don't forget those who have names which sounable d like they are on our side but only exist to line the pockets of those who run them.
    +100
    It would have to able to pay its executive director at least $85,000 salary and benefits (per WAVE 2007 IRS form 990) to match WAVE.
    When in danger you can dial 911 and hope for the police to arrive a few minutes later armed with guns.
    Why do police carry guns?

    The Joyce Foundation funded firearm control empire:
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...lFundingR1.png

    "Everything that we see is a shadow cast by that which we do not see." - Martin Luther King Jr.

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    Flipper wrote:
    J.Gleason wrote:
    Interceptor_Knight wrote:
    This is but 1 organization which is bringing in ALOT of cash. Just "joining an organization" is not enough. That is why I believe we need a new unbrella group in WI to fight against WAVE and the other groups who are working against us. Don't forget those who have names which sounable d like they are on our side but only exist to line the pockets of those who run them.
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    It would have to able to pay its executive director at least $85,000 salary and benefits (per WAVE 2007 IRS form 990) to match WAVE.
    Wow, if we had $85,000 to fight for gun rights in Wisconsin, we would have full 2A. Open, CCW, no matter... I might just fold over and pass out...

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    AaronS wrote:
    Wow, if we had $85,000 to fight for gun rights in Wisconsin, we would have full 2A. Open, CCW, no matter... I might just fold over and pass out...
    What do you think Jim Fendry's thirty pieces of silver were worth? Remember that these lobbyists make their living selling your vote. And they don't participate in Cash for Clunkers. This is rice-bowl politics writ large.

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    I see groups like this out there and realize that I can be thankful that there are a lot of people who "drank the kool aid" that dont own guns. Even if a honorable sheep dog saved one of these people they would still be against guns.
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    When in danger you can dial 911 and hope for the police to arrive a few minutes later armed with guns.
    Why do police carry guns?

    The Joyce Foundation funded firearm control empire:
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...lFundingR1.png

    "Everything that we see is a shadow cast by that which we do not see." - Martin Luther King Jr.

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    Joyce Foundation funding for WAVE:

    http://www.joycefdn.org/GrantList/AllGrants.aspx

    http://www.joycefdn.org/Programs/Gun...e/Default.aspx

    This Chicago organization wants to rid Wisconsin of its pro-gun culture. Gee -- wonder why Illinois and Wisconsin are the only states without CCW -- doesn't have anything to do with the flood of money from anti's like Bloomberg and this group does it?

    Note the agenda item to expand beyond the Milwaukee - Madison axis. Just like MAiG has been signing up small town mayors.

    Please cross-post to other Illinois and Wisconsin pro-gun culture forums and blogs.

    WAVE Educational Fund

    To continue its gun violence prevention activities, grow its membership, increase its presence outside the urban areas of Madison and Milwaukee, and forge a progressive gun agenda that helps reduce gun violence in a state with a very pro-gun culture and s


    WI
    Milwaukee
    $315,000
    12
    2008
    Gun Violence

    WAVE Educational Fund

    URL: http://www.waveedfund.com/
    To continue its public, policy-maker, and media education efforts to prevent firearm violence in Wisconsin.


    WI
    Milwaukee
    $630,000
    24 months
    2006
    Gun Violence /
    Improving Firearms Policy

    WAVE Educational Fund

    URL: http://www.waveedfund.com/
    To continue its public, policy-maker, and media education efforts to prevent firearm violence in Wisconsin.


    WI
    Milwaukee
    $250,000
    1 year
    2005
    Gun Violence /
    Improving Firearms Policy

    WAVE Educational Fund

    URL: http://www.waveedfund.com/
    To educate the public about the risks of guns in the home and to enhance its media and communications presence (including on the Internet), its statewide organizing and coalition building, and its funding and membership base.


    WI
    Milwaukee
    $250,000
    1 year
    2004
    Gun Violence /
    Improving Firearms Policy

    WAVE Educational Fund

    URL: http://www.waveedfund.com/
    To support a coalition to reduce gun violence in Wisconsin.


    WI
    Milwaukee
    $40,000
    6 mos.
    2004
    Gun Violence /
    Improving Firearms Policy

    WAVE Educational Fund

    URL: http://www.waveedfund.com/
    To promote public health-oriented gun policy in Wisconsin and nationally.


    WI
    Milwaukee
    $100,000
    2 years
    2003
    Gun Violence /
    Improving Firearms Policy




    When in danger you can dial 911 and hope for the police to arrive a few minutes later armed with guns.
    Why do police carry guns?

    The Joyce Foundation funded firearm control empire:
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...lFundingR1.png

    "Everything that we see is a shadow cast by that which we do not see." - Martin Luther King Jr.

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