Interceptor_Knight
Regular Member
imported post
jooos wrote:
Here is a response to any paper suggesting that .50BMG be banned....
The paper you quoted in your post does not contain "facts". It contains second hand opinions. It contains only anecdotal statements and quotes. It is not a technical paper and relies on the emotions of the timid in order to garner support for a ban.
Here is a fact for you. Ronnie Barrett originally developed the civilian .50BMG rifle in the early 80sfor civilian sporting purposes.....:dude:
There are laws against machine guns being possessed and terrorists get them. There are laws against terrorists getting explosives and terrorists get them. A .50BMG can only hit a target a mile away in the hands of the most highly skilled individuals. The average terrorist can NOT hit a target accurately at those ranges. It simply is not possible. Let's really get serious now.... There is no such thing as a "sniper rifle". This is another propaganda label coined by the anti-gun media and the gun grabbing groups who are only interested in lining their pockets. There are only target rifles. ANY rifle effectively becomes a sniper rifle only when in the hands of a properly trained and proficient sniper. This is an individual who shoots often to maintain their rare and unique skill level. This is not the garden variety foreign or domestic terrorist who can barely manage to slap together primitive explosives.
To equate the power of a 700 grain piece of lead to a missle which contains high explosives, is guided to its target by sophisticated electronics and is self propelled is nothing less than comical. It is entirely laughable. A plane is just as vulnerable on takeoff to a .338 Lapua, .416 Barrettor other target rounds. There is nothing magical about the .50BMG. Ithas benefitted from irresponsible media propaganda. Although a .50BMG rifle may be easy to get, armor piercing ammo is not so easy. It would make more sense to outlaw armor piercing ammo. Standard commercial .50BMG ammo used for hunting and target practice is not armor piercing.
You simply have no data to support any urgency for banning them. You have no data to support their actual use in a significant number of crimes. The mere possession of them does not equate to these organizations or individuals having the skill and capabilities of using a .50BMG rifle effectively. Just because a group was arrested and a .50BMG was in their possession means NOTHING. Show some overwhelming data which shows that they are used (discharged) in crimes.
Give me a 10 lb .338 Lapua and give one of them a 50lb .50BMG. Put us 1000M apart in an open field. Give useach5rounds. I have no concerns....
jooos wrote:
Here is a response to any paper suggesting that .50BMG be banned....
The paper you quoted in your post does not contain "facts". It contains second hand opinions. It contains only anecdotal statements and quotes. It is not a technical paper and relies on the emotions of the timid in order to garner support for a ban.
Here is a fact for you. Ronnie Barrett originally developed the civilian .50BMG rifle in the early 80sfor civilian sporting purposes.....:dude:
There are laws against machine guns being possessed and terrorists get them. There are laws against terrorists getting explosives and terrorists get them. A .50BMG can only hit a target a mile away in the hands of the most highly skilled individuals. The average terrorist can NOT hit a target accurately at those ranges. It simply is not possible. Let's really get serious now.... There is no such thing as a "sniper rifle". This is another propaganda label coined by the anti-gun media and the gun grabbing groups who are only interested in lining their pockets. There are only target rifles. ANY rifle effectively becomes a sniper rifle only when in the hands of a properly trained and proficient sniper. This is an individual who shoots often to maintain their rare and unique skill level. This is not the garden variety foreign or domestic terrorist who can barely manage to slap together primitive explosives.
To equate the power of a 700 grain piece of lead to a missle which contains high explosives, is guided to its target by sophisticated electronics and is self propelled is nothing less than comical. It is entirely laughable. A plane is just as vulnerable on takeoff to a .338 Lapua, .416 Barrettor other target rounds. There is nothing magical about the .50BMG. Ithas benefitted from irresponsible media propaganda. Although a .50BMG rifle may be easy to get, armor piercing ammo is not so easy. It would make more sense to outlaw armor piercing ammo. Standard commercial .50BMG ammo used for hunting and target practice is not armor piercing.
You simply have no data to support any urgency for banning them. You have no data to support their actual use in a significant number of crimes. The mere possession of them does not equate to these organizations or individuals having the skill and capabilities of using a .50BMG rifle effectively. Just because a group was arrested and a .50BMG was in their possession means NOTHING. Show some overwhelming data which shows that they are used (discharged) in crimes.
Give me a 10 lb .338 Lapua and give one of them a 50lb .50BMG. Put us 1000M apart in an open field. Give useach5rounds. I have no concerns....