greengum
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I know this isn't exactly a gun discussion, but it is related I think. If anything I would like some information or a discussion and at the very least I hope you are entertained.
I was out shopping for a new gun at Turner's outdoors for the purpose of open carry in California and Nevada. While I was shopping I came across a sign that said you could buy a fishing license there. I remembered awhile back while looking at the California State Constitution that the people have a Right to fish upon it's lands. http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/const-toc.html article 25 section 1. I then asked the salesman behind the counter why I would need a license or "permission" to fish if I have the inalienable Right to do so. Needless to say i got a blank look and he asked if i wanted a license or not. Well now i got really curious and decided to call the department of fish and game. After a few minutes with a computer and a lady answering phones I was connected to a ranger station. After asking why I needed permission and to pay for something that I have a Right to do the lady responded with a "wow that is the most interesting question I have ever got." She then put me on speaker phone with the others in the office and we discussed the issue for about 15 minutes. They all agreed with me but they also said the money goes to their paycheck and to maintain the waters, but that I should not HAVE to pay unless I wanted to since it is a Right and not a privledge. They gave me a number to call in Sacramento to the head noob in charge of fish and game. Spoke briefly to the lady who answers his phone then he got on the phone after a short time on hold. I explained my question to him and his response was what I had expected. "Listen smart ass I am not a constitutional lawyer but if you are caught fishing without a license you will be fined" then he hung up on me. So much for our state officials working for us.
The way i see it, fishing just like the Right to keep and bear arms is open to various views. I am still rather new to OC.Org but are there any plans to get a voter sponsored bill on the ballot in a city, county, or state level to make more clear our Rights? The way I see it is if the people in Sacramento can pass legislation or regulate our Right to fish, could we not also do the same in reverse?
I know this isn't exactly a gun discussion, but it is related I think. If anything I would like some information or a discussion and at the very least I hope you are entertained.
I was out shopping for a new gun at Turner's outdoors for the purpose of open carry in California and Nevada. While I was shopping I came across a sign that said you could buy a fishing license there. I remembered awhile back while looking at the California State Constitution that the people have a Right to fish upon it's lands. http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/const-toc.html article 25 section 1. I then asked the salesman behind the counter why I would need a license or "permission" to fish if I have the inalienable Right to do so. Needless to say i got a blank look and he asked if i wanted a license or not. Well now i got really curious and decided to call the department of fish and game. After a few minutes with a computer and a lady answering phones I was connected to a ranger station. After asking why I needed permission and to pay for something that I have a Right to do the lady responded with a "wow that is the most interesting question I have ever got." She then put me on speaker phone with the others in the office and we discussed the issue for about 15 minutes. They all agreed with me but they also said the money goes to their paycheck and to maintain the waters, but that I should not HAVE to pay unless I wanted to since it is a Right and not a privledge. They gave me a number to call in Sacramento to the head noob in charge of fish and game. Spoke briefly to the lady who answers his phone then he got on the phone after a short time on hold. I explained my question to him and his response was what I had expected. "Listen smart ass I am not a constitutional lawyer but if you are caught fishing without a license you will be fined" then he hung up on me. So much for our state officials working for us.
The way i see it, fishing just like the Right to keep and bear arms is open to various views. I am still rather new to OC.Org but are there any plans to get a voter sponsored bill on the ballot in a city, county, or state level to make more clear our Rights? The way I see it is if the people in Sacramento can pass legislation or regulate our Right to fish, could we not also do the same in reverse?