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Thread: Why the locked thread

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    I for one would like to know why the Recon mission for Montana members
    got locked. There was no arguements going on, and the people of Montana as well as here on this forum have a right to discuss this topic at will.

    Nothing that I saw in any of the post violated the rules here.

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    Anything that devolves to Alex Jones probably needs to be closed.

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    So instead of locking, how about delete the post? seems kind of fishy when the mere mention of a Radio program can lock a thread, at least the particular Program was relevant to the Discussion.

    JBin I have Found that it is useless to try convince mods to your way of thinking, it will be a futile attempt! Good luck anyway!

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    JBinMontana wrote:
    ... the people of Montana as well as here on this forum have a right to discuss this topic at will.
    Not so. This is a private, rather than governmental, forum and there are no Rights here. The First Amendment says "Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech..." Private entities may censor at will.

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    Couple of thoughts.

    Yes, the people of Montana, and yes, the people on this forum, absolutely have the right to discuss whatever they want to discuss.

    What they don't have the right to is to use the resources of this privately owned forum to do so. We are all here at the courtesy of John and Mike. That's pretty much the end of the story.

    Also, as I see it, locking a thread is one step before deleting a thread. If a thread offends somewhat, or perhaps the owners believe it will soon degrade substantially, it can be locked to prevent further violation. By that action, they are saying that it hasn't gotten so bad that they don't want anyone else to see what has already been said. Remember, the owners are just two folks like the rest of us, they don't have the time or the desire to babysit a potentially volatile thread just in case it turns south.

    If the thread gets deleted, it's passed an even deeper threshold, and the owners are saying not only will we stop talking about this, we don't even want anyone to see how bad it got. I tend to think of a locked thread as a little bit of a friendly warning to always be careful that you are furthering the goals of the forum, and not detracting from the community as a whole. If you've been deleted, you crossed the line. Again, that's how I see it, and that may have no correlation whatsoever to how the owners see it.

    For what its worth... YMMV...

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    The forum rules require threads to be reasonably related to open carry. General freedom-related issues unrelated to O.C. don't qualify.

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    Considering the stuff that gets through on GD, then by that measure GD should be locked. One of the reasons that I don't go there anymore.

    Also, it is usually pertinent to post to the thread why it is being locked before locking it, then these discussions have less a chance of happening. Maybe I need to decide if I should continue to even come here..

    -CZ

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    MontanaCZ wrote:
    Considering the stuff that gets through on GD, then by that measure GD should be locked. One of the reasons that I don't go there anymore.

    Also, it is usually pertinent to post to the thread why it is being locked before locking it, then these discussions have less a chance of happening. Maybe I need to decide if I should continue to even come here..

    -CZ
    The inconsistency is a function of the lack of time the moderators have to police the forum. Ditto for explaining why.

    I wish you would stay. I've learned tons and tons on this forum. For me it has far outweighed any annoyance over lack of moderation or inconsistent moderation.


    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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