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    Family Says 911 Tape Caught Cops Planning Cover-Up After Shooting

    http://www.courthousenews.com/2009/0...rotectandserve


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    That is horrible!
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    WOW! That is awful!!! Remind me not to call the police for help if I am in AZ!

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    Officer Lilly's post-shooting, one-word 'assessment': '****.'

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    and thats why I wouldnt call the police untill i shot the intruder

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    That just makes me want to puke! The cop should be prosecuted for murder and the one that's "got his back", should be in prison for conspiracy/obstruction at the least.
    Bet their city attorney is gonna need a train load of tums and the treasurer a new bank account. I hope he gets MILLIONS...tax free of course.

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    This sounds like complete disregard for safety and health and rights of the homeowner. If this is solid, and an internal investigation can determine that very quickly, the officers should be fired immediately. They are a menace to Maricopa County.

    What I can't figure out is why the cops would put the shot-up homeowner on the hood of the car and drive around with him on it...




    Says 911 Tape Caught Cops Planning Cover-Up After Shooting


    By JAMIE ROSS

    PHOENIX (CN) - A homeowner says a Phoenix police officer shot him six times in the back during a 911 home-invasion call, and the 911 tape recorded the officer's partner saying, "That's all right. Don't worry about it. I got your back. ... We clear?" The family says the officers were not aware that the 911 call was still recording as they spoke about covering up the shooting.
    In their complaint in Maricopa County Court, Anthony and Lesley Arambula say an armed intruder "crashed through the front window" of their home on Sept. 17, 2008 and ran into one of their son's bedrooms.
    Anthony, worried about his son who was still in his bedroom, says he "held the intruder calmly at gunpoint" and called 911.
    Phoenix Police officers already in the neighborhood heard the crash of the Arambulas' window. When they approached the house, Lesley says, she told Sgt. Sean Coutts that her husband was inside holding the intruder at gunpoint. Lesley says Coutts failed to pass on that information to the two other officers.
    Inside the house, the Arambulas say, Officer Brian Lilly shot Anthony six times in the back while he was still on the phone with the 911 operator - twice when he was on the ground.
    The officers ran into the bedroom after Anthony told them, "You just killed ... you just killed the homeowner. The bad guy is in there."
    The complaint states that Officer Lilly "admitted that it was only after Tony was laying, bullet-ridden, on the ground that he assessed the situation. The 911 tape continued to record what happened even after Officer Lilly unloaded his weapon into Tony, including Officer Lilly's post-shooting, one-word 'assessment': '@#$%.'
    "Tony believed he was going to die; the 911 tape records his plaintive goodbye to his family: '... I love you ... I love you.' Then Tony made what he believed was a dying request to the officers; he did not want his young family to see him shot and bloodied. Officers callously ignored his request and painfully dragged Tony by his injured leg, through the home and out to his backyard patio, where they left him bloodied and shot right in front of Lesley, Matthew and Zachary."
    The Arambulas say the officers later dragged Anthony onto gravel, then put him on top of the hot hood of a squad car, and "drove the squad car down the street with Tony lying on top, writing in pain."
    According to the complaint, Lilly can be heard on the 911 tape telling Coutts, "We @#$%ed up."
    Lilly says on the tape that he did not know where Anthony's gun was when he shot him and that he "opened fire because he heard loud noises and saw someone who looked like he might be the 'Hispanic' male they were pursuing" before getting to the Arambulas' house, according to the complaint.
    The complaint states: "Sgt. Coutts knew that officers has just shot up and likely killed an innocent homeowner and the husband of Lesley, with whom he had spoken before entering the home, instead of the armed intruder. Sgt. Coutts was quick to commence the cover-up of their terrible mistake. Sgt. Coutts asked Office Lilly where Tony's gun was at the time Officer Lilly had opened fire on Tony. Officer Lilly admitted that he did not know where Tony's gun was: 'I don't know. I heard screaming and I fired.'"
    Lilly later told a police internal affairs investigator that Anthony had pointed his gun in his direction, "in the 'ready' position," the complaint states. But Anthony Arambula says he was facing away from the officers, who could not have even seen his gun.
    The complaint continues: "Still not knowing that he is being recorded n the 911 tape, Sgt. Coutts interrupted Officer Lilly's admission and apology with his assurance that the cover-up would commence: 'That's all right. Don't worry about it. I got your back. ... We clear?'"
    After the shooting, the Arambulas say, the Phoenix Police Department treated them "like suspects in a drug bust," denying Lesley, Michael and Zachary information about Anthony's condition and denying friends and family members access to him at the hospital.
    Anthony Arambula survived, but continues to suffer pain, which he expects will last for the rest of his life.
    The City of Phoenix and Officer Dzenan Ahmetovic also are named as defendants.
    The Arambulas seek punitive damages for gross negligence, civil rights violations, failure to supervise, excessive force, deliberate indifference to medical needs, false arrest, and emotional distress. They are represented by Michael Manning with son Morrison Hecker.

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    And this is just another reason why (the people) of this land are having a hard time trusting that the police have there back, and not the bad guys back !!!!

    I wish that the good police would come out a squash the bad cops. Clean up there own house before they come to my house, then i would have there back without question......





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    I can't help but wonder, would the wife have been "justified" in shooting the officer(s), that shot her husband? I know that it would basically be suicide by cop at that point, but still, just my imagination running wild.(Not to be interpreted as anything other than honest curiosity, I do not fantasize about shooting anyone, let alone LEO.)

    What a horrible situation, and another few bad apples giving the real good guys a black eye and bad name.

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    I wonder why LEO's are not respected and trusted. Hmm...

    Bet they get a slap on the wrist if anything.

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    This is one of the worst things I've ever heard.

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    Beretta8045 wrote:
    This is one of the worst things I've ever heard.
    Then you sir or ma'amhave not been alive very long or searched very far. There have been and will continue to be far worse things in this country. Just saying.
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    venator are you in on the open carry friendly contest?

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    Yeah, Waco was far worse.


    If this is solid, and an internal investigation can determine that very quickly, the officers should be fired immediately.
    Apparently, Hank T doesn't recognize a clear case of attempted murder when it's by the boys in blue.


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    This was reported Sept. 17, 2008. Is there any updates?springerdave.

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    Congratulations on our newest millionaire.

    Goodbye Phoenix Police Force... :quirky
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    Try THIS on for size.... breathe deep and don't throw your puter... Officer was cleared of this shooting by an investigative board...

    http://www.azcentral.com/community/p...mbula0925.html


    Can I get a WTF?
    No one has ever walked away from a gunfight complaining that he brought too much ammo.

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    cabman1 wrote:
    venator are you in on the open carry friendly contest?
    Well since I had the stickers made up I can't lose as every one you fine people get posted I count as a fraction of my score. So keep it up and we all win.

    I will say I only have had a few posted, so good job cabman.
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    That is some bull@#$% there.If we were to have done that we all know where we would be!!!

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    Venator wrote:
    cabman1 wrote:
    venator are you in on the open carry friendly contest?
    Well since I had the stickers made up I can't lose as every one you fine people get posted I count as a fraction of my score.┬* So keep it up and we all win.

    I will say I only have had a few posted, so good job cabman.
    you know lunch with you is one of the possible prizes if I can get you to do it with your busy schedule?(its the grand prize) http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum30/32341.html

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    cabman1 wrote:
    Venator wrote:
    cabman1 wrote:
    venator are you in on the open carry friendly contest?
    Well since I had the stickers made up I can't lose as every one you fine people get posted I count as a fraction of my score. So keep it up and we all win.

    I will say I only have had a few posted, so good job cabman.
    you know lunch with you is one of the possible prizes if I can get you to do it with your busy schedule?(its the grand prize) http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum30/32341.html
    I'm not sure that's a prize, You want to motivate not nauseate. How about I buy lunch for the winner and they get a MOC mug and a 2A March bumper sticker as well.
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    Face it Venator, your a celebrity now.

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    drew68 wrote:
    Face it Venator, your a celebrity now.
    No one has ever walked away from a gunfight complaining that he brought too much ammo.

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    hopnpop wrote:
    Try THIS on for size.... breathe deep and don't throw your puter... Officer was cleared of this shooting by an investigative board...

    http://www.azcentral.com/community/p...mbula0925.html


    Can I get a WTF?
    Sorry, I just think this bears repeating...
    No one has ever walked away from a gunfight complaining that he brought too much ammo.

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    Thats the biggest bunch of ever. How in their right mind can that board sleep at night after justifying this situation? This forum has really continued to open my eyes to the travesties that go on in this country on a daily basis

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