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Blacksburg OC police response

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So based on the 911 calls and radio traffic, someone at Good Will called concerned about people in the parking lot carying sidearms and if the person mentioned in the OP was telling the truth about what the cop said the cop lied/exagerated when he asked about the guys waving guns around.
 
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mpg9999 wrote:
I find it interesting that they claim they can exempt the calls by 2.2-3706 (F) (1) because its part of a criminal investigation, yet in statement 2 they say that no reports where created since the individuals had left the parking lot. I guess its irrelevant because they chose not to exempt them.
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I find it interesting that they referred to it as a "criminal investigation" when "According to the arriving officer the caller stated there was a group of cars and individuals with firearms PRESENT."

It says nothing about waving (brandishing) them around, only that whomever called was uncomfortable with the possibility that a citizen might be lawfully armed and on premises.

As of that point, by law, there is no crime being committed and thus no criminal investigation to undertake.
 
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wylde007 wrote:
mpg9999 wrote:
I find it interesting that they claim they can exempt the calls by 2.2-3706 (F) (1) because its part of a criminal investigation, yet in statement 2 they say that no reports where created since the individuals had left the parking lot. I guess its irrelevant because they chose not to exempt them.
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I find it interesting that they referred to it as a "criminal investigation" when "According to the arriving officer the caller stated there was a group of cars and individuals with firearms PRESENT."

It says nothing about waving (brandishing) them around, only that whomever called was uncomfortable with the possibility that a citizen might be lawfully armed and on premises.

As of that point, by law, there is no crime being committed and thus no criminal investigation to undertake.
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Ironically, wherever the officer is, there's an individual with a firearm present.

I found that funny, not to take away from your valid point.
 
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A perfect oportunity for the dispatcher to inform the caller that it'squite legal for them to be open carrying.
 
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Darylvb wrote:
A perfect oportunity for the dispatcher to inform the caller that it'squite legal for them to be open carrying.
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That's what I was thinking.

I'm also confused on the reason for withholding the 3rd call...there's a criminal investigation going on? Into what? Parking at Food Lion? I'm screwed...I do that at least 2 times a week at that exact Food Lion.

Unrelated side note: went in that Goodwill last week and got a road bicycle in my size that shifts and stops for $2.95. Figure if I ride it to campus once it'll have paid for itself.
 
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I'm a die-hard second-hand store nut, and used to LOVE going to GoodWill, Salvation Army stores, and the like. But our Goodwill stores here in NC are posted with the "Circle-Slash" no guns sign, and after following this thread, I'm pretty much ready to COMPLETELY swear off Goodwill. I love those places--I've got some FANTASTIC finds there--stereo equipment, kitchen ware, vinyl records--but with a universal firearms prohibition in their stores in my part of NC, and after this call from one of their employees in Blacksburg, it's looking like Goodwill must have an organization-wide anti-gun attitude.

Someone who lives in Blacksburg should check out that store and see if it's posted. If it is not, someone should go in (NOT carrying) and ask them why they feel they need to harass law-abiding citizens in an adjacent parking lot for exercising their rights as guaranteed under both VA law and the US Constitution, and maybe hand them a copy of the VA gun laws.

I'm just sayin'...
 
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Dreamer wrote:
I'm a die-hard second-hand store nut, and used to LOVE going to GoodWill, Salvation Army stores, and the like. But our Goodwill stores here in NC are posted with the "Circle-Slash" no guns sign, and after following this thread, I'm pretty much ready to COMPLETELY swear off Goodwill. I love those places--I've got some FANTASTIC finds there--stereo equipment, kitchen ware, vinyl records--but with a universal firearms prohibition in their stores in my part of NC, and after this call from one of their employees in Blacksburg, it's looking like Goodwill must have an organization-wide anti-gun attitude.

Someone who lives in Blacksburg should check out that store and see if it's posted. If it is not, someone should go in (NOT carrying) and ask them why they feel they need to harass law-abiding citizens in an adjacent parking lot for exercising their rights as guaranteed under both VA law and the US Constitution, and maybe hand them a copy of the VA gun laws.

I'm just sayin'...
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I'll check tomorrow to let you know, but to be honest I didn't even look when I was in there last week...when I'm concealing in a business a no gun sign better smack me in the face on the way in or I might miss it.

OC'ing I'm a little more vigilant about checking for signs just because I don't want to intentionally cause a stir.
 
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MSC 45ACP wrote:
N6ATF wrote:

The law (Mulford Act) came about because black people dared to defend themselves, their communities, and against police brutality. The law itself is a hate crime, not silly at all.
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Now THERE is an OXYMORONical.. "Hate Crime"... When a white person does something to a black person, its a "hate crime". When a black person does something to a white person, it isn't.

It's the White Man Keeping The Black Man Down" and he is being OPRESSED! I've witnessed far more "Hate" by blacks toward whites than I have the other way around. In my kids' schools, blacks account for about 10-15% of the total number of students. Why, then are they responsible for 80-90% of the infractions and crime committed? Is that racist? Please tell me WHY it is ok for a black child to physically intimidate my daughter and call her names like "wheat thin" and "honkey", but if she DARE use the "n" word, she is racist? Why is it ok for black students to call each other the 'n' word, but if anyone ELSE uses that racial slur they get crucified for it!

I am sick and tired of the double standard in our school and in life. Someone calls the idiot what he is (A Socialist) and some spork comes up with some silliness that callin someone "Socialist" (An accurate description, by the way) is equivalent to calling him the "n" word and being racist.

Is it a "hate crime" to call a socialist what he is? Is it wrong for an LEO to investigate a complaint?

The Blacksburg LEO used words that may have inferred more than one complaint. Obviously he didn't believe there was more than one complaint, or they would have "called out the cavalry" as suggested above.
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It's because reporting the truth doesn't advance the agenda of those who are in power and those who report the "news". There are somewhere around 50 to 70 times the number of hate crimes perpetrated by blacks against whites than the other way around (one source: Dr. Thomas Sowell). But you won't see this simply because it both doesn't serve their purpose and doing so would get the "reporter" branded a racist.

During the Clinton administration, there were numerous reports of black churches being burned. What you didn't hear about was for every black church being burned, three white churches were burned.

The sad thing in all of this is when someone wishes to speak or write these things (for example, racism is far more prevalent among minorities and specifically blacks, than among whites), they are instantly viewed as being out of the mainstream, suspect, and even racist. Funny, isn't it.


I would like to add this. I have a number of friends who are fine people and who just happen to be black. And it doesn't matter one damned bit to me what they are. I have to believe they don't like this state of affairs anymore than anyone else does. Being a Southerner, I was raised to respect everyone and treat people with dignity unless they gave reason not to deserve it so I find all of this to be rather appalling.
 
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SaltH2OHokie wrote:
Dreamer wrote:
I'm a die-hard second-hand store nut, and used to LOVE going to GoodWill, Salvation Army stores, and the like. But our Goodwill stores here in NC are posted with the "Circle-Slash" no guns sign, and after following this thread, I'm pretty much ready to COMPLETELY swear off Goodwill. I love those places--I've got some FANTASTIC finds there--stereo equipment, kitchen ware, vinyl records--but with a universal firearms prohibition in their stores in my part of NC, and after this call from one of their employees in Blacksburg, it's looking like Goodwill must have an organization-wide anti-gun attitude.

Someone who lives in Blacksburg should check out that store and see if it's posted. If it is not, someone should go in (NOT carrying) and ask them why they feel they need to harass law-abiding citizens in an adjacent parking lot for exercising their rights as guaranteed under both VA law and the US Constitution, and maybe hand them a copy of the VA gun laws.

I'm just sayin'...
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I'll check tomorrow to let you know, but to be honest I didn't even look when I was in there last week...when I'm concealing in a business a no gun sign better smack me in the face on the way in or I might miss it.

OC'ing I'm a little more vigilant about checking for signs just because I don't want to intentionally cause a stir.
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Not that anyone was likely too worried about this, but I was just out for a ride (motorcycle, OC'ing) and swung in to check. Signage:

No Food
No Drink
No Pets
No Smoking
No Solicitation


Didn't see anything about legally carried arms, so if its a Goodwill policy to limit carry in the store it isn't a well publicized one.
 
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Realizing that it is not location specific to this thread:

I OC regularly in Goodwill outlets and have for years throughout Richmond (over half a doz. of them) and have never had a problem.

Yata hey
 
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This thread makes me want to go shopping at the B'burg Goodwill in search of clothes or kitchenware... OCing of course! :idea:

I'd do it just to see the :what:eek:n the puss of the woman that called 911.
 
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