langzaiguy
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I still think that the running of the serial number against my will is a 4th amend. violation.
I believe you are addressing a different issue. If you volunteer your weapon, it would not be a violation. You are arguing the benefits of volunteering your weapon. I'm more interested in if the involuntary, temporary seizure of the weapon & search of its serial number would be a 4th amend violation--it seems it would be.
More along the lines of your argument--if I had a ND, or a brandished weapon, or something grossly in violation of the law, I would expect that the weapon's numbers would be run. I mean, if I'm doing something illegal with my vehicle, they are justified in pulling me over, seeing if I'm drunk, and checking my license. If I am going the speed limit, following the letter of the law, I shouldn't be subjected to a time & energy wasting detainment to prove my legality. I think that is a dangerous position for a citizen to be in--to prove one's legality.
I suppose if a cop is genuine, courteous, and understands my right to carry and doesn't detain me, I suppose I might make his job a little easier. I guess the point is, it should be up to the citizen as to whether or not they are to comply with the search.
I still think that the running of the serial number against my will is a 4th amend. violation.
I believe you are addressing a different issue. If you volunteer your weapon, it would not be a violation. You are arguing the benefits of volunteering your weapon. I'm more interested in if the involuntary, temporary seizure of the weapon & search of its serial number would be a 4th amend violation--it seems it would be.
More along the lines of your argument--if I had a ND, or a brandished weapon, or something grossly in violation of the law, I would expect that the weapon's numbers would be run. I mean, if I'm doing something illegal with my vehicle, they are justified in pulling me over, seeing if I'm drunk, and checking my license. If I am going the speed limit, following the letter of the law, I shouldn't be subjected to a time & energy wasting detainment to prove my legality. I think that is a dangerous position for a citizen to be in--to prove one's legality.
I suppose if a cop is genuine, courteous, and understands my right to carry and doesn't detain me, I suppose I might make his job a little easier. I guess the point is, it should be up to the citizen as to whether or not they are to comply with the search.