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    I've got several S&W N-frames in various calibers but have never carried one. I'm not interested in carrying the longer barrelled (6", 6.5", 8 3/8").

    I just picked up a nice used610, 4" (3 7/8"), round butt, that might just be the right model for me to carry on occasion. I could carry a reload in a moonclip but those are not too stowable, IMO.

    So, I'm wondering. Who carries an N-frame? What kind of holster, reloader(s)? Whichmodel, barrel length, caliber?

    OC or CC, what's been your experience?

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    Why not? I don't have an N-Frame to carry, but I believe that it could be comfortably carried in a "high-ride" holster. I would prefer a 4" barrel or less...too long and it is like drawing a sword. Personally, I think a large handgun has an advantage over a small one for this reason:

    1.IF youare in a situationwhichrequires"clearing leather", the last thing you want to have to do is pull the trigger.

    2. The bigger the gun, the bigger the "ALL SH _ T"factor comes into play, causing the perpetrator to flee. The smaller the gun, the less chance this will happen.

    3. IF you have to pull the trigger, then the next to the last thing you want to do is: "MISS".

    This is just a theory of mine...I'm sure experts will say it is wrong; but an N-Frame would be perfect.

    I carry an L-Frame 686 and can carry it all day long with no problems. A slightly larger N-Frame should not be that much more burdensome. Also, with a loose shirt or jacket, I believe that it could be easily concealed.





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    I've been carrying a 327 for awhile. Recently I have carrying a 6" 29-3.

    I open carry mostly, but it is easy to conceal the 327.



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    Very nice, kwikrnu.

    8 shot.

    Any quick reload?

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    I carry a 4"K frame .38 and love it.. it doesn't drag my pants down like my old small block .45 did. I would think a shoulder rig would be a good idea for an N frame though or maybe I've seen one too many Dirty Harry movies...

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    I open Carried my 686+ a L-frame i believe... great AWWW factor

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    I open Carried my 686+ a L-frame i believe... great AWWW factor

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    I carry (OC) a 3" 629 when I don't carry a 1911. I love big bore revolvers for carry. Nothing speaks with authority like 240 grs, at 1050 fps. I use a Galaco leather and 2 speed loaders. A short bbl N frame is easy to OC and conceal with a little wardrobe thought toward concealment.

    When I change out carry pieces, I’ll carry it for several weeks, and shoot it twice a week for around 250 rounds a week. My 629 is a superb shooting pistol for a 3” bbl.



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    I carried a 4" M-29 Smith .44 Maggie in an OWB holster complete with 2 speedloaders under a Hawaiian shirt for a few weeks just for fun. The thing stuck out a mile. Felt like half a steel grapefruit hung on my belt. At 5'9" and 150 lbs, it was obvious as hell. No one noticed a thing.



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    I you have a heavy side arm and it feels like a "boat anchor" perhaps your belt is too "wimpy". Go to a Law Enforcement Supply store and pick up a heavy duty Galco belt. It makes all the difference.

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    I CANNOT buy any more firearms (at least not without adversely affecting my conscience); but if I could, I would buy a Smith and Wesson 625 in 4" barrel and/or a Ruger Redhawk .44 Mag with a 5 1/2 " barrel. Both would be excellent carry guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hankt
    Very nice, kwikrnu.

    8 shot.

    Any quick reload?
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    It uses moonclips so reloading isn't too bad. Although with 8holes and the cylinder being titanium it is not as fast as something with 6 holes and steel (like 610's or 325's)



    The key to concealing isusinga holster that draws the gun as close the the body as possible. Most of the time this is uncomfortable. The 29 is hard to conceal even if trying for me.







    The 327 is easy, but depends upon the holster. The smithholster is good, but an uncle mikes paddle is bad because it makes the gun stick out too far.






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    Ever try the Galco or Bianchi Holsters?? They are nice pieces of leather!!

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    I used to occasionally CC a Taurus 689 with a 4" barrel in a Bianchi shoulder rig (X-2100 Phantom).

    But that Taurus is a K-frame, not an N frame. Close in size, and in this rig, it was comfy and relatively easy to conceal. It's a vertical shoulder rig, so the barrel points down, meaning you aren't constantly "covering" everyone behind you, which is one of the main reasons I like it.
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    I like to CC an N-Frame on occasion...either a S&W M27 (3.5" barrel, 8x357, Tyler T-Grip) or a 625 (4" barrel, Ahrends grips).

    I make my own holsters and gear. Moonclips are somewhat difficult to deal with. I have found that stowing moonclips in a cargo pocket with one on the belt is the most convenient way to go.




    Here's a rough moonclip holder for the belt. It works pretty well.



    625 in combo appendix/strong side holster



    A strong-side only holster with wing to prevent the holster from falling back


    S&W Model 625 (45 ACP, 4" barrel) in strong side holster



    S&W M27 in strong side holster. One loop at back to maintain forward cant.


    Holster in split loop configuration





    Various ammo holders








    Double IWB 8x357 moonclip holder. It's not comfy with a gun carried IWB, but is fine when the gun is in a pancake holster.


    The following are the holders I use in pockets for moonclips. They keep the cartridges from getting dinged up. The bullet tips and sides of the cartridge don't get dented anymore. It's very fast to use. I usually carry two or three on the strong side cargo pocket. It works really well with moonclips for 45 ACP.












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    While I normally carry a double stack .45, I have carried both an S&W 629 3" and more recently an S&W Model .500 4". Either of these can be more or less concealed if necessary. As others have pointed out the key is to use a holster that hold the weapon tight to the body. Pancake style holsters are good as are IWB styles. Obviously a lose flowing sport shirt is also useful, so is a rather "Fluffy" body type.

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    Hawkflyer wrote:
    While I normally carry a double stack .45, I have carried both an S&W 629 3" and more recently an S&W Model .500 4". Either of these can be more or less concealed if necessary. As others have pointed out the key is to use a holster that hold the weapon tight to the body. Pancake style holsters are good as are IWB styles. Obviously a lose flowing sport shirt is also useful, so is a rather "Fluffy" body type.
    What kind of belt you using to hold up that 500, Hawk?

    And what kind of holster?

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    Galco Makes the holster and any 1 1/2-1 3/4" belt works just fine. The easiest carry is cross draw, but normal strong side high carry is good too. The holster from Galco can be carried both ways.
    "Research has shown that a 230 grain lead pellet placed just behind the ear at 850 FPS results in a permanent cure for violent criminal behavior."
    "If you are not getting Flak, you are not over the target"
    "186,000 Miles per second! ... Not just a good idea ... It's the law!"

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    HankT wrote:
    What kind of belt you using to hold up that 500, Hawk?

    And what kind of holster?
    I also want to know... I love shooting my .500 - 4" and do carry it when working anywhere I imagine a Grizzly might appear but have never tried to conceal it.



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    I carry my .327 TRR8 when working in Nevada, Arizona or any other cougar habitat. Asa result, I occasionally open carry it into gas stations and motel lobbys. It's not as comfortable as my 642 but the weight of this N-frame scandium revolver is quite managable. Even without my CT grips this is one of the best shooting weapons I own.





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    twoclones wrote:
    HankT wrote:
    What kind of belt you using to hold up that 500, Hawk?

    And what kind of holster?
    I also want to know...** I love shooting my .500 - 4" and do carry it when working anywhere I imagine a Grizzly might appear but have never tried to conceal it.

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    Well I make my own belts. 1 3/4" 9 oz oak tanned leather sometimes I tool them but most are just a plain leather strap with a buckle. The guy in the pics below is using a 511 belt and I know a lot of people like them.

    After testing a lot of holsters and even making some, I have settled on the Galco holsters. They make a few nice pancake styles that hold the firearm right where it needs to be. I have used some of their IWB holsters as well, but these days I find the pancake style more comfortable.

    Interestingly with the .500 the Galco holster is not a pancake style,

    but it can be worn as either a standard 3 o'clock position holster as above
    or as a cross draw.

    It also has two different sets of slots so you can set different cants on the belt.

    They make a shoulder holster for this as well but I do not use it very often.

    As for reloading for the .500 I have been using the Galco cartridge carriers.

    They are not fast but they provide a few extra rounds should the need arise. But I do not use this weapon as a primary defense weapon against two legged critters so the whole mindset is different.

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    "If you are not getting Flak, you are not over the target"
    "186,000 Miles per second! ... Not just a good idea ... It's the law!"

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    After testing a lot of holsters and even making some, I have settled on the Galco holsters.
    As have I. I have a Galco holster for every handgun I carry, except for my NAA Mini, and hang them on a Galco belt. There are some other very good holsters but like you, I have settled on Galco.

    I'd like to point out to anyone who is new to carrying that a good holster and beltmakes all the difference in the world. Below is a photo of my .500 S&W 4", TC Encore Pro Hunter in .500 S&W, and NAA .22 mag Mini-revolver. The little one is worn as a belt buckle for open carry Note the 'dummy cord' on my revolver... This is serious retention for work or play in the back country.



    Hmmm. Would the .500 fit in at an Open Carry lunch?



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    twoclones wrote:
    After testing a lot of holsters and even making some, I have settled on the Galco holsters.
    As have I. I have a Galco holster for every handgun I carry, except for my NAA Mini, and hang them on a Galco belt. There are some other very good holsters but like you, I have settled on Galco.

    I'd like to point out to anyone who is new to carrying that a good holster and beltmakes all the difference in the world. Below is a photo of my .500 S&W 4", TC Encore Pro Hunter in .500 S&W, and NAA .22 mag Mini-revolver. The little one is worn as a belt buckle for open carry Note the 'dummy cord' on my revolver... This is serious retention for work or play in the back country.



    Hmmm. Would the .500 fit in at an Open Carry lunch?

    I have worn mine to two OC outings which included lunch. So I would say yes. I wore the holster in cross draw because it is more comfortable that way.

    So it would seem that YOUR .500 likes "Bungee jumping".
    "Research has shown that a 230 grain lead pellet placed just behind the ear at 850 FPS results in a permanent cure for violent criminal behavior."
    "If you are not getting Flak, you are not over the target"
    "186,000 Miles per second! ... Not just a good idea ... It's the law!"

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    It may not like to bungee jump but it's certainly prepared I work in pretty remote areas of our American West and have had a couple of things influence my carry and shooting.

    One was when my dog alerted me to acouger over head while I was in a very compromised position. But the time I got my balance and drew my revolver, it was gone. This really drove home for me the need to shoot well... Immediately afterwards, I bought a S&W 617 and for weeks I fired 100 rounds every morning. Wow! What a difference a little practice can make...

    Next one I was working on the Idaho Wyoming border. Plenty of bear sign, frequently heard wolves near byand was often is forest and terrain I could barely push through. The thought of big bears started to eat at me so I bought the .500 S&W.

    Soon after that someone sent a link to this videowhich sent me scurrying out to buyall the gear necessary to reload for the .500 so I could afford to shoot it enough to be proficient.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMbnmLLnsfw



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